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27/02/21
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Originally posted by boomeronrations:
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So Sens. Correct me if I am wrong , these are the 6 clauses in the IHRA 1. Accusing Jews of being more loyal to Israel or to a global Jewish agenda than to their home countries. blatant antisemitism 2. Denying Jews the right to self-determination or calling Israel a “racist endeavor.” anti- semitic , but should not exclude pointing out racist policies of any Israeli government 3. Applying a double standard to Israel that isn’t applied to other countries. My only comment I would make on this , I would hold Israel to the same standards I would hold any democratic developed country to. 4.Applying classic anti-Semitic smears, like the blood libel, to Israel. There are plenty of terms that can be used to describe any transgressions of the Israeli state , definitely anti-semitic to use blood libel 5. Comparing Israel to the Nazis. Unfair and over the top , see comment 4 6. Holding Jews collectively responsible for Israel’s actions. Grossly anti-semitic . No 6 is the most important . But Israel , by doing everything it can to make any criticism of the Israeli state's actions, 'anti-semitic', pushes the association between Jews and those actions , making them ''Jewish'' actions. As a friend of mine said, to paraphrase , 'I try to tell people that Israel doesn't define me as a Jew, and they come back with " It is how Israel defines you ". The IHRA statement as it stands , dilutes the message that anti-semiticism is an abomination , by focusing so much of its efforts on preventing criticism of the Israeli state. And that dilution is a danger to all of us. I might add, my statement above referring to competing victimhood , was a reference to the Israel/Palestinian interaction and should not be taken more widely than that. Of course , the IHRA might see that as anti-semitic regardless.
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Not trying to interrupt -- but it will take a fair while to reply to a post like that. Quite a bit of his retorts are from a pre written hate blog , I doubt if all that is covered.