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Originally posted by Taurisk ↑

@screenbender you are obviously posting from Israel - believe me, I feel for what is going on over there quite keenly, I am old enough to remember running from bombs during the latter days of WWII - my people then were the enemy of the free world, but a child does not know that.
Even now, I have to shut those thoughts out, so I can live out my life peacefully - we cannot weep for the victims forever, it will dissolve our lives, before our time is out, if we do.

As a child I had no idea that those bomb-spewing monsters in the sky were human. Aged 4 or so, when the war was already over, I found myself in the green space in front of my house (called 'Der Gürtel') riding a tricycle and suddenly heard a bomber flying very close to the ground - I looked up and saw a man inside the plane and realised for the first time that people - humans - were doing those horrible things. I remember my sense of utter astonishment and I can see that scene in my mind's eye, even now, and still wonder what kind of plane it was to display the pilot, definitely not a bomber plane . . . and remember my huge sense of relief when it disappeared as quickly as it had appeared, without dropping a bomb or taking a shot at me.
I also had years of disliking the sound of aeroplanes, even when already in Australia . . .

A bit too much information - but in contrast to some posters on here, I know what wars are like on the ground. I remember my fear, my hysteria to the sound of 'bomb alarm', my addiction to that lump of sugar with a drop of 'something' which Mum gave me and calmed me . . . before going for the 'big run' into the Inner City, where the 'safe' bomb cellars were (we always went to one that was 3 storeys deep).

Wars are about survival, at any cost - that's how humans are made - and we see on our TV screens a lot of destruction or death; for me, it is a bit too realistic, so I don't check whether a shot might be 'faked' as one poster on here seems to intimate, I just see the endless shuffling of humanity from one destroyed place to another, and yet 'bastion Israel' remains undisturbed - until recently, of course.

I hope you are 'safe' and I hope this situation can be resolved peacefully.
Taurisk

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''I looked up and saw a man inside the plane and realised for the first time that people - humans - were doing those horrible things. I remember my sense of utter astonishment and I can see that scene in my mind's eye, even now, and still wonder what kind of plane it was to display the pilot, definitely not a bomber plane . . . and remember my huge sense of relief when it disappeared as quickly as it had appeared, without dropping a bomb or taking a shot at me.
I also had years of disliking the sound of aeroplanes, even when already in Australia . . .''

morning, hope you're well

2 points -

*I have a friend whose grandmother (now deceased) had fear all her life when she heard a plane. Great fear. - She was a kid in WW2 in a city which was bombed.
These things never go away.

* your point about not understanding that the planes had humans in them. Is very relevant - we see it every day on the news with tanks or planes etc ---------- when one side 'shoots the plane down' or 'kills the tank' or 'destroys the tank'

the poor buggers in the tank never get a mention, the noise, then the incineration and lack of air and screaming death --------------- rarely does one see it mentioned.

And of course planes bombing or artillery firing - at what?? They don't know - they never know exactly who is under the incoming bomb - they may be 'told' something - but, they just don't know

Sometimes, they do know that it's a hospital or whatever and they go ahead anyway.

But mostly remoteness keeps them insulated from knowing that they just dropped hell on a small girl on a bike with her dolly in the back seat and pink streamers on the bike

This is humans and this is how we detach ourselves from the reality of what we do. (one way anyway).

Proudly they come home from war as 'bomber pilots' or 'the person who drops the bomb' - they were brave fighters --

well - to me - firing an artillery shell or launching a rocket or dropping a bomb from miles away and killing children ---------- never sounded much like bravery

tis amazing what humans do

the ones below - we did 'knowingly' ------------ how can any human live with themselves for this?