"what an unexpected pleasure on hotcopper to read a sane,...

"what an unexpected pleasure on hotcopper to read a sane, balanced post. Thank you "

You are welcome. I try to diffuse heated debates as I find it silly for people to argue either side using extremely biased views when the reality is both sides of the argument have good and bad points. I prefer that discussions are objective and open-minded rather than subjective and close-minded. The latter type of discussion tends to trample and destroy the truth on both sides. Most things in life have two sides. When one views anything from one side, one might end up only getting half the truth if lucky. I prefer to view both sides objectively and come to my own conclusions. That way I tend to get closer to the whole truth. It works pretty well. If we all used that approach it would be a happier platform here. Indeed if the whole world used that approach there wouldn't be the need to have wars.