Ridge, I'm afraid you and I will have to differ on our opinion of Howard. In my view he is the most amoral, despicable PM's we have ever had and that's saying something. I'm pretty confident that history will condemn him as such.
I'm more in agreement with you re Crean. The labor party has let down its traditional supporters and has become paralysed. I suppose Howard can claim some credit for that. He is a "good" politician to use the word in its most cynical sense, but an excrable leader.
