I agree. They're here to stay. ASIC will always say 'they're averaging buys/sells for their customers'. AT is a love hate relationship. You love them when it's in your favour and hate them when it's not. It's just a case of learning what their methods of operation look like and the share direction resulting from it. No AT is far worse, when they stand back and don't participate and let it drift aimlessly. If you want 'smart money' to come to your stock, it's under their terms. I find the best stocks are the high turnover ones. Somewhere where your $$$ and volume are inconspicuous.