one business man reported that rudd spent the meeting "taking...

one business man reported that rudd spent the meeting "taking notes"!!! ROFLMAO, in the normal course of events i'd say "well done rudd, you might learn a thing or two", but given the current state of play "taking notes" is a bloody joke.

furthermore, giving a lump sum payment to pensioners is a mistake, post christmas they'll all be back to square one & the whinging will resume. what then? I know, let's spend another $10 billion! far better off to increase the pension by $30 per week (or whatever it works out to) than paying lump sum.