@gowalkabout nothing in life is as it seems I have come to discover......... if we were privileged to have sat in the boardroom of KDR over the past 4 years..... we would see the world very differently......... one thing for sure it ain’t over pal, you may still experience making a profit before this is out......... for many of us LT holders this hasn’t been an easy ride, it has not been a share for the faint hearted ......... you have jumped in the speculative end for your first foray........ our friend the barefoot investor has some good stuff for starting out....... GLTARH.