"Mickban, if there is civil war I expect it won't be state against state but more localised."
You would be very wrong on that one -- if it's a civil war - then, you would get probably a group of states - just like last time
"I expect you'll have suburban groups creating enclaves with some sort of perimeter that they can defend. "
what you are describing here is not civil war -- it's anarchy - a very different thing - look up the definition
remember what you said -
"I expect you'll have suburban groups creating enclaves with some sort of perimeter that they can defend. "
the key there is - defend from what or who?
that MUST mean that you have roving groups or bands who are going to attack - which is why one has to defend -
that's precisely anarchy ---------- not civil war
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