Yeah but Bryan the battery storage stuff in those links is old...

Yeah but Bryan the battery storage stuff in those links is old news, when I get some time I will post some links to show you why vanadium is becoming a game changer, and its not for mobile or moving devices. It's for the fixed state liquid ion exchange vanadium redox batteries, whilst most people think its only good for grid storage, thats going to be big too I believe, but better still is the range of liquid ion exchange vanadium redox batteries being developed in the 25 KWH range, thats the game changer. The average house uses 25KWH per day, these batteries can cycle from 100 to 0 % daily without any degradation, can be produced for half the price of lithium, guaranteed for 25 years, and the results suggest they will still be in near new condition after that time, and in a comparable size as lithium as well. That's current, so who knows how good they will be refined to and cheap they will become in the future, cheers