"Yeh I have been fed up with the constant Abbott is under threat...

"Yeh I have been fed up with the constant Abbott is under threat posts for some time especially since I want him to stay where he is.
That said, it does appear from reports in both the left and right wing press that some sort of action to shift him and Hockey is under way inside the Liberal Party."

Dave have you just about given up hope that Abbott will stay on?

You realise that once Abbott is gone and particularly if Turnbull takes over your beloved Labor party will have to come up with some one better than Shorten