The USA is different to Aus because most of its immigrants have...

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    The USA is different to Aus because most of its immigrants have arrived illegally across
    the Mexican Border (hence Trump's Wall proposal)

    Our immigration is planned with the exception of war zone boat people , first the Vietnamese
    and later "the Boat People; the latter have been stopped now.

    While our immigration stats are well documented, the USA stats are very rubbery simply because
    authorities there do not know how many illegal immigrants there are in the country.

    https://scanloninstitute.org.au/migrationdashboard

    For example when I traveled California & Oregon years ago the rural/farming areas
    were pickled by "Mexicans" Illegal Mexican & South American labourers and then the
    White working class were cribbing about being done out of a job when like here
    as evidenced this year, white Americans simply dont want to leave the city and
    work on farms.

    here is a difference here between the short term wages and long term wages
    which are dependant on general economic growth provided that there is
    a reasonable wealth distribution regime in the country.

    For example our Government Fair Pay Commission legislated a a $1.40/hr
    wage increase in the minimum wage to take it to just over $20/hr. Its argument
    was that anything higher would negatively impact economic growth which
    would negatively impact on us all.

    So if those who maintain that stopping immigration will rise wages then why did
    the same anti-immigration advocates not cut to the chase and advocate say
    $30/hour minimum wage. In fact the only significant wage increase advocate
    at the Fair Wage hearing was the ASTU, the arch enemy of the Populist
    anti immigration Right wingers on these threads.

    Why is that so?

    My contention is that the basic issue is the loss of White Racial dominance
    in Aus due to the current influx of Asian, African & M/E immigrants and that
    downward wage pressure is not the real issue.

    Post WW2 immigration was not a real issue because we had the White Australia
    Policy up to the mid 1960s

    If wages were to be the real issue then surely take home wages would be the real
    thing. That of course can be directly remedied by raising the PAYE tax free treashold
    from $18200 P/a to say $60K* P/a and make our resources sector (mostly foreign owned)
    & our big businesses (mostly foreign owned) pay the tax deficit .

    * This would give the average wage earner an extra $10K a year take home pay
    and less in the pockets of foreign investors/foreign shareholders.

    In other words reward Aussie work a bit more & foreign capital a bit less.

    As we de-industrialise , our economy is becoming more dependant on consumption
    (morphing into a consumer economy)so in that sense the bigger the population the better...eh?



    Last edited by moorookamick: 11/07/21
 
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