Cheers Jopo, just wanted to have a look at the models for my own...

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04/09/14

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Originally posted by jopo ↑

Thank you Carvs85.
The link you provided was very informative.
It collated very well the tidbits you read here and there.
Yes the sun is an unknown piece. Good to see that major establishments recognise that.
Great article.
Found this bit interesting in regards to the ozone.

Several researchers discussed how changes in the upper atmosphere can trickle down to Earth's surface. There are many "top-down" pathways for the sun's influence. For instance, Charles Jackman of the Goddard Space Flight Center described how nitrogen oxides (NOx) created by solar energetic particles and cosmic rays in the stratosphere could reduce ozone levels by a few percent. Because ozone absorbs UV radiation, less ozone means that more UV rays from the sun would reach Earth's surface.

Isaac Held of NOAA took this one step further. He described how loss of ozone in the stratosphere could alter the dynamics of the atmosphere below it. "The cooling of the polar stratosphere associated with loss of ozone increases the horizontal temperature gradient near the tropopause,” he explains. “This alters the flux of angular momentum by mid-latitude eddies. [Angular momentum is important because] the angular momentum budget of the troposphere controls the surface westerlies." In other words, solar activity felt in the upper atmosphere can, through a complicated series of influences, push surface storm tracks off course.

Of course these are views only. But it does reinforce the need to understand our sun better as was pointed out several times throughout this article

Carv in regards to reference to IPCC models, "IPCC Models predict with greater temperature we get extra moisture in the atmosphere." that is a given on what IPCC say. I dont believe anyone is disputing that. I will happily retract.

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Cheers Jopo, just wanted to have a look at the models for my own info.

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