And one more thing. I don't care about banks and creditors I...

And one more thing. I don't care about banks and creditors I care about us the small shareholder. Macquarie will stick solid because it has too much to lose but at what cost to us all ? So bloody peed off with what we have all had to suffer because of the way this had been run to date. As if the fall in iron prices is not enough of a negative