I know Joe is outspoken and he has been against "hype". What I...

I know Joe is outspoken and he has been against "hype". What I hope he can acknowledge is that juniors need to raise funds and people to back them whilst they get going. That requires some persuasion aka "hype". I do not think he is against DLE per se (e.g. he has invested in Standard Lithium), but is waiting for somoene to demonstrate this at scale.

I hope Joe will have an open mind as when there are big problems to be solved (e.g. how can we extract lots more lithium quickly cos the demand is huge), great minds will come up with innovative solutions and I don't buy the mantra that this can't be done because it has never been done before.