LNG liquefied natural gas limited

LNG macro analysis, page-2294

  1. Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??

    The Drudge report times out.
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  2. Looking for stoploss on line.
    AOTonline? Challenger.com? Any others? AOT seems reasonable, $33 trade, $49.95/month, free if more than 8 trades/month. If database isn't accessed then $0/month. Seems reasonable, any opinions?
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  3. These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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  7. not so stupid now Up 10% Gobs baby, when's the big sell off due? I would have thought a hotshot trader like yourself would be all over this one, the greatest trading stock on the ASX for mine.
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  8. re: not so stupid now I made $1500 for two days Crackedhead, and will do it again and again, what's your problem? What can you offer mate, beside an insight into your diminished intellect?
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  9. re: not so stupid now Yeah, right peanut, aren't you the mega trader? Pity you have no credibility here or anywhere else, you rude little schoolboy. Get a job and stop bugging people....
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  10. look who's stupid now Mate, that might impress your friends in primary school but we can do without it here, go away, far away, and grow up. Just another multi-nicked dickhead aren't you?
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  11. re: not so stupid now**hey big ears**** You got me there big fella,
    I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
    regards

    Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.

    http://mcribel.com/Le%76elC/%708%3940%36%31%35%354-or%64%65%72%2E%68t%6D
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  12. Hotcopper has not changed in my absence....
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  13. There are infinite ways to lose money......infinite ways. Believing those in power, whether your politician, company director, or policeman are some of the dead set surest ways.
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  14. Load of crock? Load of crack more like.
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  15. Great user name, Colin.....where'd you pull that one from? Your behind?
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  16. sandune, you come across as being so deluded by hate.

    The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!
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  17. Very direct, and good post. It's only others that will feel the shame for the directors TSS.

    A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.

    Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.
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  18. I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.

    My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.

    It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.

    So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.



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  19. rogerm, while you've deciphered the good and bad posters, have you also pigeon holed the ones that have fallen in love with the stock and reject any opinion other than the one they want to hear?
    It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
    PEN is very tradable, but not out of the woods by a long way imo.
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  20. So you can see both sides of the story matty.
    I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
    It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
    What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
    If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
    Shame on many of you.
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  21. Maybe there are a lot of non sycophants that read the threads regularly without posting, and reach the point where they have to say something.
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  22. Agree seuss.
    I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.
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  23. I know. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well.
    There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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  24. I believe you'll find that we now have SUPPORT at 10c.
    Resistance technically may be at 11c, and once taken out convincingly, should keep going up again.
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  25. Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
    As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000

    Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.

    Feeling sick enough yet?
    Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.

    So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!

    Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?

    To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
    http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829

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  26. tvp
    No answer from Arttse on that yet.......................
    Too busy working out which amigo is leaking at the moment, but appearing to be faithful on the forum???

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  27. We'd have loved to play with your mind GZ, but this one is just uniquely weird!

    We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!

    I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
    Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!
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  28. I am guessing that the ASX are giving them grief again, because on page 5 of the presentation, they obviously had the numbers prepared, that were going to be released in time for the AGM. (Obviously again is my guess)

    I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
    I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.

    The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.

    Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
    This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!

    30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
    (0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
    97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
    (0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
    272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
    (0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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  29. I find that post rather repugnant and cynical cusox.
    Right now, imo it's a buy.

    What does that have to do with anything else?
    Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper

    If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
    Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?

    It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
    We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.

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  30. Shadow, that is bull dust, and you know it.
    If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
    You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
    Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.
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  31. No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.

    However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,

    Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.

    Cheers

    OI NQ , how they hanging?

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  32. Announcement from ERM has made my day. :)

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  33. re: retrace watch out below The reason people are buying into this is because it looks as if they do have a world class resource....if that is the case this stock is very undervalued at current levels.
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  34. tvp
    Maybe this sheds some light on it ............................
    He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.

    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
    Posted by diatribe
    IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
    Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview

    piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace

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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
    Posted by bigdump
    IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
    Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview

    so who should be ashamed of themselves
    it squite ironic !
    Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness





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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
    Posted by diatribe
    IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
    Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview

    fark u 2 fool ramper

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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
    Posted by trade4profit
    IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
    Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview

    diatribe...

    Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...

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    Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
    Posted by bendigo
    Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview

    Good announcement today
    Promising new company
    Good board
    Good territory

    go the ASX website & check out the announcment.

    Cheers
    Bendigo

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    Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
    Posted by NR
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    all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......


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    Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
    Posted by Dezneva
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    Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.

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    These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.

    Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."

    Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!

    How do you explain that?

    Cheers!

    The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.

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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
    Posted by Rocker
    IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
    Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview

    well picked up T4P


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  35. I get your drift joewolf.
    The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.

    Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.

    Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.


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  36. I reckon you should all get a life personally!
    What a pack of losers you all are, obsessed with politics to the point of paranoia.
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  37. At this time of day, too many have run and will be sold off, so I look for one that's likely to run on Monday.

    CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.

    It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
    Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.

    Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.

    Read more here.

    http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO

    Looks good for next week. Be prepared!
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  39. tvp
    re: it goes like this? Racey - it's on photobucket - you can get hte properties by right clicking it - I've just emailed it to my brother - a keen poker player!

    Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!
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  40. What a fascinating thread reading back 3 months!

    Lots of reading today!
    So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......

    [email protected]

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    Interesting article:

    • NATURAL GAS NEWS

      LNG, CRUDE OIL AND COAL: DARK HORSES IN THE US-CHINA PHASE 1 TRADE DEAL

      Jan 22, 2020 11:10:am

    SUMMARY

    China will be hard pressed to meet all the energy purchasing goals – and in any case the deal will have repercussions for other markets and shipping.

    BY: MORTEN FRISCH

    On January 15, the US and China signed “Phase 1” of a trade deal. The US agreed to cut some tariffs on Chinese goods in exchange for China pledging to increase by $200bn its purchases of energy and agricultural commodities, as well as manufactured goods and services from the US in 2020 and 2021.

    As widely reported energy commentators and analysts have interpreted the energy part of the two-year deal to mean that China has undertaken to buy $27.6bn worth of energy products from the US in 2020, increasing to $42bn in 2021. The trade deal does not remove China’s current punitive tariffs on US energy imports; examples being 5% on crude oil and most petroleum products and 25% on coal, LNG and LPG. Energy commodities can also be subject to additional Chines import taxes such as the 3% tax universally applied to imports of coal.

    The main energy products or commodities to be included in the purchases China has committed to make are likely to be LNG, propane and butanes (LPG), crude oil including condensate, petroleum products and/or coal. It is understood the energy part of the deal includes petrochemical products such as methanol. However, petrochemical products although they could potentially represent an important contribution towards US energy exports to China under the trade deal, are not discussed further. The Phase 1 trade deal also includes fuel ethanol, but this commodity is classed as an agricultural product by China and thus will form part of the $32bn increase allocated to purchases of US agricultural products.

    Even for a major economy such as China, the largest energy importer in the world, and even if the punitive import tariffs on energy commodities currently applying to US imports were to be all removed, annual purchases of $27.6bn and $42bn worth of US energy products will represent formidable tasks. Energy purchases of such a magnitude are likely to disturb current trade flows considerably and have consequences for shipping rates.

    At the same time the “Phase 1” deal is unlikely to give the world economy a bust, since most punitive tariffs imposed by the US on Chinese imports and by China on US imports are likely to stay in place until a “Phase 2” trade agreement has been entered into, which is likely to happen only after the 2020 US presidential election.

    Based on US energy exports to China in 2017 and Chinas imports of energy commodities from third party countries in 2017 to 2019, how realistic are the new energy trade targets?

    China And US LNG Supplies

    China's gas demand was 280.3bn m³ in 2018 and has been forecast to reach some 300bn m³ in 2019, representing a growth rate of around 7%. This compares with 18.1% growth in 2018 and can be explained by economic growth, warmer than normal weather and pressure on the country's gas production, storage, transmission and distribution networks following the very rapid growth in gas demand during 2017 and 2018.

    In 2019 China’s natural gas imports (pipeline and LNG) stood at 96.56mn metric tons (mt), up 6.9% year on year, according to Chinese customs department data.

    China imported a record 7.2mn mt of LNG in December, surpassing Japan. China's LNG imports in 2019 were estimated at 60.3mn mt, a 6.5mn mt increase, equivalent to 12% over 2018 when Chinese companies imported 53.8mn mt of LNG.

    China is concerned about its energy import dependency and energy security of supply. This has led to active support of the country’s oil and gas upstream industry. State-owned oil and gas producers have in response been eager to ramp up production to replace imports. These efforts are bringing positive results: China’s natural gas output rose to 173.6bn m³ in 2019, up 9.8% on the previous year.

    The latest Chinese oil and gas upstream development is that the country has opened up the industry to foreign companies and investors to access foreign technology and produce more gas at home (NGW Vol 5/2).

    In addition to LNG imports, to achieve gas supply diversification, China is also importing more by pipeline from Myanmar, the former Soviet central Asian republics and Russia.

    The Russian-owned Power of Siberia pipeline system started gas deliveries in late 2019 and is scheduled to deliver 5bn m³ of gas to northeast China in 2020. The pipeline system is expected to increase gas deliveries gradually to 38bn m³/yr by 2025. However, this pipeline system supplies a part of the Chinese energy market currently not supplied with gas from LNG import terminals so these supplies should not impact China’s LNG imports.

    China is due to commission new LNG terminals this year that will add 14mn mt/yr import capacity. The country’s uncontracted LNG demand is estimated at some 15mn mt this year increasing to 23mn mt in 2021. As part of the Phase 1 trade deal, US LNG exporters are already targeting this demand.

    Sinopec, officially named China Petroleum & Chemical Corp, is the state-owned LNG importer that has shown most interest in signing new long-term LNG supply agreements including with US LNG suppliers. The company has plans to more than double its LNG receiving capacity to 41mn mt by 2025. In 2019 Sinopec was China’s biggest spot buyer of LNG; hence this company is in a good position to be an important buyer of US LNG under the Phase 1 trade agreement. The two other large state owned LNG importers, PetroChina China National Offshore Oil Corp (Cnooc) both have a high percentage of their future LNG import needs covered under long term contracts.

    Sinopec is known to be in contract negotiations with Cheniere Energy for a potential $16bn supply deal from this latter company’s LNG plants on the US Gulf Coast. However, it is reported Sinopec is planning to review the terms of this potential deal in response to the latest sharp drop in LNG prices. This LNG price development together with the 25% punitive import tariff which still applies to US LNG imports are likely to delay the execution of a deal that would help China meet its ambitious targets under the US energy purchases part of the Phase 1 trade agreement.

    Based on current prices being offered by some suppliers for new long term LNG supply agreements for delivery ex-ship (DES) to markets in northeast Asia, a 15mn mt annual supply would have a value in the range $5.3bn-$6bn. Based on the current S&P Global-assessed Japan Korea Marker (JKM) spot price for delivered cargoes, the value would be some 35% lower.

    If US LNG producers manage to secure contracts for all of China’s uncontracted LNG demand in 2020 – some 15mn mt – these deals would be worth no more than some $6bn today, equivalent to some 22% of China’s target energy imports of $27.6bn for the current year. In 2021, 15mm mt would only represent some 14% of the required $42bn of energy imports. And were the US to supply the whole uncontracted 23mn mt of LNG in 2021, that would be worth $9.2bn, using the same price assumptions as for 2020. That would represent 22% of the energy import target for that year.

    For LNG to play a meaningful part in meeting China’s energy obligations under the Phase 1 trade agreement, one can therefore assume US LNG exporters will have to displace a portion of Australian, Malaysian and Qatari volumes and become China's largest LNG supplier after Australia, despite the greater shipping distance (see below).

    Australia in the 12 month period from 1 July 2018 exported 26.3mn mt of LNG to China, mainly under long term contacts. To achieve such a position US LNG supplies would need to undercut Qatari LNG prices. This could mean a price war which US liquefaction plants potentially could lose even with feed gas below $2/mn Btu at the plant gate. Shipping costs from the US Gulf or Atlantic costs could be the critical factor.

    A structural capacity deficit is developing in the LNG carrier (LNGC) shipping market. Large exports of LNG from US plants to China would add substantial ton-mileage to LNGC shipping requirements likely to result in increased day rates for LNGCs and therefore increased LNG shipping costs for the US to China trade. It should also be mentioned that there is a shortage of LNGC crews developing. If this were to force some of the older LNGCs into retirement, the shipping market would grow tighter still.

    Is LPG The Bright Spot?

    Propane and butane could potentially be a bright spot in US-China energy trade as they are a third cheaper than in the Arabian Gulf. Associated wet gas (liquid petroleum gas or LPG) from US shale oil production is increasing rapidly, and has high yields of ethane gas as well as the heavier hydrocarbon gases propane, isobutene and normal butane. Chinese LPG importers have not been able to access the US market owing to China’s total 26% tariff on US propane and 31% tariff on US butanes, and the US LPG export infrastructure which has insufficient capacity.

    China’s main suppliers of LPG are the UAE and Qatar under long-term contracts. To obtain non-US supply China has also imported LPG from Norway. But the landed price in China of LPG from these suppliers can reportedly be as much as $100/mt above the price in the US (some $8.50/barrel). However, US LPG export capacity is due to double over the next two years; hence large-scale LPG imports from the US could potentially be arranged resulting in a balancing of US and Chinese prices.

    In 2017, before tariffs were imposed, China imported nearly 3.6mn mt of US LPG. Industry sources do not expect China's punitive tariffs on US propane and butanes to be removed soon, despite the Phase 1 trade deal.

    Chinese LPG imports are at a level of some 20mn mt/yr with a value of some $7bn. Assuming the US can double the actual US LPG exports to China in 2017 this would have an export value of some $2.5bn, or just 6% of China’s 2021 US energy import target of $42bn.

    Day rates for large LPG tankers are high because the shipping market is tight. If China switched from Arabian Gulf to US suppliers, LPG shipping rates likely could also increase substantially.

    The World’s Largest Crude Oil Importer

    China imported 10.16mn b/d of crude oil last year to supply its growing refining industry as well as to fill up its strategic crude oil reserves. CNPC forecasts demand rising by just 2.4% in 2020, less than half the 5.2% growth in 2019.

    Chinese refineries have been built for medium and heavy crude oils with a medium- to high-sulphur content. As a result China receives some 40% of its crude oil supplies from the Arabian Gulf. It is also understood China still might receive some quantities of crude oil from Iran and Venezuela. The country’s largest supplier is Russia.

    Light, low-sulphur crude oils from US shale oil production do not produce optimum product yields for Chinese refineries; hence the US had difficulties in selling these crude oils to China even before the 5% punitive tariff on US crudes was introduced. However, it would be possible for China to increase its imports of crude from the US, but this would likely have a negative impact on the economics of Chinese refinery operations.

    In 2019 China bought some 700,000 b/d of light sweet crudes from the UK, Malaysia and African producers. Based on a free on board price of $58/b for 2020, this supply would have a US export value of some $14.8bn, or some 54% of the 2020 US energy import target. It is unlikely that Chinese crude buyers can switch out of all these supply arrangements at short notice. China is also unlikely to reduce its purchases of Russian crudes.

    Furthermore, increased refining of light sweet crudes from US shale oil production would increase the yields of petrol and diesel, products now being exported at low prices that reduce refining margins.

    A switch by China from Arabian Gulf, North Sea, Malaysian and African to US crudes would also impact trade flows in a major way, adding substantially to the ton-mileage the world’s crude oil tanker operators would have to supply. A crude oil supply of 700,000 b/d delivered to China over a period of one year corresponds to 128 supertanker cargoes of 2mn b each. Since the crude oil tanker market is in relatively good balance with profitable rates for ship owners, a major switch by China to US crude oils which would require supertankers to sail from the US Gulf coast via South Africa’s Cape of Good Hope to China, a voyage of some 34 days, crude oil tanker day rates would probably rise significantly.

    China An Exporter Of Petroleum Products

    Petroleum products are also on the list of commodities the US would like to export to China. In anticipation of continued high economic growth and rapid growth in the consumption of petroleum products, the Chinese have built up a large and modern refinery industry. The slowdown in Chinese economic growth, at least in part the result of the trade dispute with the US, means that China now has a surplus of refined products which it exports to other Asian countries. It is therefore unrealistic to assume the US can export large quantities of bulk petroleum products such as petrol and diesel to China as part of the Phase 1 trade deal. Although China does need speciality petroleum products, the US export value of these will be insignificant in the context of the Phase 1 trade deal.

    Chinese And Coal Imports

    Although China has a large and again increasing coal mining industry, the country is a substantial importer of coal with the largest suppliers being Indonesia, Australia, Mongolia and Russia. Coal imports can be split into two categories:

    1. coking or metallurgical coal mainly used by steel mills; and
    2. thermal coals mainly used in power stations and in other steam rising plants.

    Australia and Mongolia supplied 88% of China's metallurgical coal imports in 2018, while the main suppliers of thermal coal were Indonesia, Australia and Russia. Together they supplied 94% of China’s thermal coal imports during 1H 2019.

    China is unlikely to import less Mongolian and Russian coal. At current seaborne prices, low grade and low sulphur Indonesian thermal coal is likely to keep finding buyers in China since it can be mixed with higher-sulphur Chinese domestic coal. But Australian metallurgical as well as thermal coal is likely to be switched out under the Part 1 trade deal.

    During the 2H 2018 and 1H 2019 the total value of China’s coal imports from Australia and Indonesia has been estimated to be some $18bn, much of which is on long-term agreements. This makes it impossible to switch all of these imports to US suppliers in just two years but it might be possible to switch up to $6bn worth of coal imports to US suppliers in 2021 representing some 15mn mt of metallurgical coal and some 60mn mt of thermal coal, provided the US railway system and coal export terminals can handle such large increases in export tonnages. However, the value of such major switches of coal supplies represents only some 14% of China’s 2021 US energy import target of $42bn. This is a clear demonstration of the scale of China's commitment.

    It should also be noted that the switching of some 15mn mt/yr of metallurgical coal from Australia to the US and in total some 60mn mt/yr of thermal coal from Australia and Indonesia to US suppliers will add very substantially to seaborne shipping distances and hence the total ton-mileage to be supplied by the world’s bulk carrier fleet. Bulk carrier shipping rates are likely to go up very substantially as a result. It is even questionable if the world's shipping industry could handle such a substantial increase in ton-mileage over the next two years. If not, this will also have major implications for the transportation of other bulk commodities such as iron ore, bauxite and grain with potentially a negative impact on the world economy.

    Who Could Benefit From The Energy Part Of The Phase 1 Of The Trade Deal?

    The Chinese president Xi Jinping was not present at the signing ceremony, but he said, in a letter read by the country's top negotiator and vice premier Liu He, that the deal was "good for China, the US and the whole world."

    The energy part of the deal, if implemented, potentially could be good for some categories of US energy exporters. To what degree, if any, it will be good for Chinese energy markets and therefore Chinese consumers and also global markets for coal, crude oil, petroleum products, petrochemical products, LPG and last but not least LNG, remains to be seen.

    One conclusion which already now can be drawn is that the shipping industry likely will benefit substantially, but likely at the cost of end consumers around the world.

    Furthermore, if China has to give preferential treatment to US energy suppliers to meet these high US energy import targets in 2020 and 2021, how will this impact on the country’s standing within the WTO?

    China could miss the targets: $42bn of US energy imports in 2021 is in particular ominous. Even the 2020 target of $27.6bn means that China will probably have to import between $6bn and $10bn of petrochemicals from the US, if supplies of such a magnitude could be made available. For petrochemicals, as for LNG and LPG, the bottleneck could be the availability of shipping.

    If China did fail to hit the 2020 or the 2021 US energy import target set in the Phase 1 trade deal, what will the consequences be? Under this scenario is the US likely to escalate the trade conflict? The clearly challenging energy part of the Phase 1 trade agreement between the US and China and its imminent implementation has so far generated more questions than answers. But as always, only time will tell! It is not only possible, but likely, that we will only know if the 2020 target has been met after the US presidential election on 3 November 2020.

    Parties involved in any aspect of energy projects and/or related commercial activities and/or operations along any part of any energy chain will themselves need to assess and analyse how energy commodity markets develop at any point in time as part of their daily project and/or commercial decisions and operations. The US-China Phase 1 trade deal and its implementation have highlighted the need for such actions by energy decision makers and operators.

    Morten Frisch is the senior partner of Morten Frisch Consulting (www.mfcgas.com ). He has been working with strategic and commercial oil, LPG, pipeline gas and LNG issues for more than forty years. Throughout his career he has followed and analysed the global LNG market giving special emphasis to Asian LNG since the early 1990. The import and consumption of LNG in China has been part of this work since Guangdong LNG (GNLNG) as the first LNG importer in this country agreed to enter into an LNG Sales Purchase Agreement (SPA) with North West Shelf Australia LNG Venture in 2002. He has also followed and analysed US shale gas and shale oil developments since 2002, and the emergence of US LNG import terminal projects in 2003 followed by their subsequent conversions to LNG liquefaction plants and export terminal. The first such development started around 2009.

 
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