"I have doubts that this is the best value for money ie type, number, and I would like to see an instant Australian involvement not beginning in 2020"
I don't know about that but the announcement is the next step in the process and it will take time to finalise the details of the design and sign contracts.
"He cannot say when they will be delivered as they are not even designed yet"
They have decided on the French Barracuda class, see my previous reply
"He is promising jobs that don't exist just to win an election"
The fact that the Subs will be built here is enough to suggest it will create jobs
"He is stating a price that is almost certainly a lie"
The price is an estimate at this point in time, that the best anyone could provide
"BUT WHY does the PM have to lie so much"
Your opinion he is lying.
Abbott lied, you didn't have a problem with that
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