So you quote Isa 44:24 and then it appears, YOU go against you own advice, and I can only assume that is due to your creation, the PLANTED SEEDS, that Jesus is God.
So YOU need to LOOK lore seriously at Isa 44:24 and LET that along WITH the Greeks meanings of word, DO the interpretation for you. Yep, let the Bible and not man, do the Talking, you know, the Spirit of truth = the Almighty God and Father, will teach you all things.
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through-> on account, by reason of, for the sake of, Because--> of Him and for Him -> the Almighty God and Father made ALL things, ALONE and BY Himself for the reasons, clearly shown, for the Future Jesus. 17He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.…
In the mind and plans of God, his first inner creation, the Beginning of the creation of God Rev 3:14, was for a future Jesus and in that very same context, in the mind of God, the Jesus to be was the firstborn of creation, in the mind of God, known as his logos and Glory, which Jesus ask for as well as God literal presence, for the first time in John 17:5.
Jesus asks God for the glory which God and God alone held, Jesus does NOT literally place himself with God before the world existed With God.
