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Originally posted by redpencil: ↑

I didn't say anyone was not sending out ballots to registered voters, either solicited or unsolicited. I simply asked you to quote a source, hopfully to show you know something about the topic and to back up your previous post where you gave your forceful opinion, and the view of Trump also, that this would lead to widespread fraud. You still have not produced this. Just an ad hom rant instead.

For anyone interested in a fact check about this issue of mail-in voter fraud you can read it summarisef below. It's just another outright lie from Trump directed at his useful idiot followers. Shame that the Trump cult could not look this stuff up for themselves.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-misleading-claim-about-unsolicited-mail-bal/

President Donald Trump, the nation’s most prominent critic of voting by mail, has repeatedly said that 80 million ballots will be mailed to voters who didn’t request them this fall.

"And the dirtiest fight of all is the issuance of 80 million ballots, unrequested," Trump said during his Labor Day remarks. "They're not requested; they're just sending 80 million ballots all over the country. Eighty million ballots, non-requested. I call them ‘unsolicited ballots.’ That's going to be the dirtiest fight of all. People are going to get ballots; they're going to say, ‘What am I doing?’ And then they're going to harvest. They're going to do all the things."

Trump made similar remarks about mail in ballots during his Aug. 24 speech at the Republican National Convention and the next day on Twitter, where he described the mailing out of these "unsolicited" ballots as "fraudulent" or a "scam."

It’s not yet clear precisely how many voters will receive ballots without requesting them by mail, because voter registration is not yet closed for the Nov. 3 election. But based on our research, we found that Trump has exaggerated the number. He also omitted the fact that millions of voters have automatically received ballots in some states for many years without it leading to widespread fraud.

Some states are sending ballots to all voters
Millions more voters are expected to cast ballots by mail this year than in previous presidential elections.

Five states — Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, and Washington — have operated virtually all mail-in elections prior to 2020, some of them for many years. Voters are routinely mailed ballots in these states as part of the regular process.

The pandemic this year has raised concerns about large groups of voters gathering indoors, so some additional states — California, Nevada, New Jersey, Vermont plus Washington, D.C. — have decided to send ballots to all active voters.

In other states, voters have to take action to request a mail ballot, though some of them took that step already if they live in a state that allows a permanent absentee voting list that may be offered to all voters, or only to certain voters based on specific criteria such as age or disability.

We asked the Trump campaign to show how it arrived at 80 million unsolicited ballots, and whether that included a handful of states that have generally held all vote-by-mail elections for years. We did not receive a response. "

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Originally posted by redpencil: ↑

I didn't say anyone was not sending out ballots to registered voters, either solicited or unsolicited. I simply asked you to quote a source, hopfully to show you know something about the topic and to back up your previous post where you gave your forceful opinion, and the view of Trump also, that this would lead to widespread fraud. You still have not produced this. Just an ad hom rant instead.

For anyone interested in a fact check about this issue of mail-in voter fraud you can read it summarisef below. It's just another outright lie from Trump directed at his useful idiot followers. Shame that the Trump cult could not look this stuff up for themselves.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-misleading-claim-about-unsolicited-mail-bal/

President Donald Trump, the nation’s most prominent critic of voting by mail, has repeatedly said that 80 million ballots will be mailed to voters who didn’t request them this fall.

"And the dirtiest fight of all is the issuance of 80 million ballots, unrequested," Trump said during his Labor Day remarks. "They're not requested; they're just sending 80 million ballots all over the country. Eighty million ballots, non-requested. I call them ‘unsolicited ballots.’ That's going to be the dirtiest fight of all. People are going to get ballots; they're going to say, ‘What am I doing?’ And then they're going to harvest. They're going to do all the things."

Trump made similar remarks about mail in ballots during his Aug. 24 speech at the Republican National Convention and the next day on Twitter, where he described the mailing out of these "unsolicited" ballots as "fraudulent" or a "scam."

It’s not yet clear precisely how many voters will receive ballots without requesting them by mail, because voter registration is not yet closed for the Nov. 3 election. But based on our research, we found that Trump has exaggerated the number. He also omitted the fact that millions of voters have automatically received ballots in some states for many years without it leading to widespread fraud.

Some states are sending ballots to all voters
Millions more voters are expected to cast ballots by mail this year than in previous presidential elections.

Five states — Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, and Washington — have operated virtually all mail-in elections prior to 2020, some of them for many years. Voters are routinely mailed ballots in these states as part of the regular process.

The pandemic this year has raised concerns about large groups of voters gathering indoors, so some additional states — California, Nevada, New Jersey, Vermont plus Washington, D.C. — have decided to send ballots to all active voters.

In other states, voters have to take action to request a mail ballot, though some of them took that step already if they live in a state that allows a permanent absentee voting list that may be offered to all voters, or only to certain voters based on specific criteria such as age or disability.

We asked the Trump campaign to show how it arrived at 80 million unsolicited ballots, and whether that included a handful of states that have generally held all vote-by-mail elections for years. We did not receive a response. "

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