blow me down. If it isn't them actual scientists, steeped in...

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    blow me down. If it isn't them actual scientists, steeped in knowledge and experience, actually studying what happened in 2023 and then communicating their analysis, as in the start of a report below. People listen out of respect to people who have knowledge.

    and oh what a vast distance and difference that is to the denial noisemakers and blowhards on HC, endlessly repeating their misinformed word salad from the pulpit in their own lounge room, where Because They Said So rules the roost. But beyond the front gate, no one gives a rats about the farago of lies perpetrated by the profoundly ignorant deniers.

    below is the start of a report by Associated Press, running Feb. 28 on Australia's Nine Network.

    "Study says 2023's 'crazy' Atlantic ocean heat, low Antarctic sea ice give glimpse of much hotter world"

    "Off the charts "crazy" heat in the North Atlantic ocean and record-smashing Antarctic sea ice lows last year are far more severe than what Earth's supposed to get with current warming levels. They are more like what happens at twice this amount of warming, a new study said.

    "The study's main author worries that it's a "harbinger of what's coming in the next decades" and it's got him not just concerned, but wondering why those two climate indicators were so beyond what was expected.

    "A study in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society charted the North Atlantic sea temperature and the Antarctic sea ice halfway across the globe against long-accepted computer simulations.

    "Sea ice levels that low and North Atlantic temperatures that much above normal are supposed to occur regularly in a world that has warmed 3 degrees since pre-industrial times.

    "Last year, a record hot year by far, the world was 1.48 degrees warmer than pre-industrial times, according to the European climate agency Copernicus. And over the long-term of decades, which is what scientists use, the world is about 1.2 degrees warmer than normal.

    ""The climate of 2023 with all the disasters, you know, with all the wildfires in Canada and all the flooding events in Europe and everything, you can interpret this as, this what we will have every year. Year after year after year in the 3-degree world," said study author Till Kuhlbrodt, a climate scientist at the National Centre for Atmospheric Sciences and the University of Reading in England."


 
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