Sorry man, there was no discussion for me to win .... you...

Sorry man, there was no discussion for me to win .... you actually defeated yourself. As I said, as a primary producer, I know a bit about this stuff that you can't learn from selectively quoting from Google. Its not hard to drive a road train through the holes in your "argument".

Trust me on this, if you were actually right about anything you had said, that beef can be produced the way pork and dairy is, you would be a very wealthy man because you would be solving a problem that will probably end up causing wars in the future.