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Originally posted by Josho737: ↑

The statistics could be explained in a better way, there are differences between before a majority got vaccinations and after.

Australia was heavy on lockdowns before, particularly Victoria, we did not allow the virus to spread freely, but around 10% of cases were getting hospitalised then, now that figure is around 1% of active cases for the whole of Australia, it was less the last few days, but percentage has increased a bit due hundreds of thousands recovering, but the chances of hospitalisation has dropped down overall significantly against past and present cases.

But now without lockdowns and a more contagious variant, the virus is running and spreading like crazy in the Eastern states, and that is what is pushing those hospitalisation numbers and deaths up.

Also I want to say

There's a anti-vax argument running around about "more vaxxed ending up in hospital than the unvaxxed," this needs to be cleared up though.

What needs to be made more clear is the statistics of how many people are unvaccinated that have or had covid, how many people are vaccinated that had or have Covid and what are the chances of an unvaccinated Covid case, being hospitalised, ending up in ICU or even dying compared to the vaccinated, and I think you will find that the chances are much lower for the double vaccinated and lower for the booster.

Just an example

In a village of 100 people, 90 are vaccinated, 10 are not, if 2 vaccinated people get hospitalised and 1 unvaccinated person get hospitalised, the chance of an unvaccinated person being hospitalised is much higher, it's comparing a 1 in 10 chance for the unvaccinated Vs a 1 in 45 chance for the vaccinated.

And that is what this anti-vax argument is not taking into account and the info that the media should be putting out more clearly.

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but a vaccine is meant to stop people getting the disease / virus it is designed to protect from. You can play with statistics all you like but when they came out there were promises that it would stop the spread and people dying. This vaccine has done nothing of the sort. Many people are dying including triple vaxxed. There is an argument about whether it is from Covid or with Covid but if we use government definitions the vaccine is providing little or no protection which is what the CEO of Pfizer said. We should be listening the the guy who is responsible for making them. Truth be told this virus is mostly affecting people who are close to death and we should now be treating like the flu.

this obsession with vaccines is wrong and misplaced. Getting kids vaxxed when almost none have had serious consequences from Covid is child abuse. I can see no reason to even contemplate it.
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