I called YMYC about two years ago and asked their opinions about SER. This was before VXL.
A smart-arse guy with blondish hair asked me what they were in to.
When I said graphite, he laughed and said, "Isn't that what they make pencils out of?"
I recorded the programme and still have it. Perhaps I should wait until I see him on again then call back and remind him.
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