Martin stood down from the cabinet because of Gillard's crews ineptness etc , same as Crean , both from the old school of honour and wisdom.
Those of Gillards mob that stay waiting and hope to avoid the electorates executioners chop may be survivors.
Martin is a survivalist...he got out before the day of reckoning...
good onya Martin , best of luck mate..
from a Lib supporter...
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