Thanks MV - the main bit of new information I learned from you was that the battery plant is dead on deck. We didn't talk about that in Syd - but it was hard to get a word in! We had over 60 ppl - same in Mel? We went over the 2 hours as well. Needless to say there were many unhappy shareholders - but Anthony and Charles do exude confidence - time will tell if they can produce the goods.