..... What really gets to me as well, dazza is that we as...

..... What really gets to me as well, dazza is that we as shareholders are literally paying their wages. Different story when this was a private and unlisted company. With 100+ staff, there is (at least in my opinion) a definite lack of dynamism. It has almost been 2 years since their IPO in 2014 and things are just barely dragging along. Please take a look at one of their roadmap timelines and compare them with what they promised and the current state of affairs. Absolutely, the market expects a safe and well thought out product, no arguments from me. But 30 years+ and still struggling? I admire the faith that some HC contributors retain and I wish that they could somehow infect me with their unbroken enthusiasm. But so far, I feel as bad about this product, as I have ever felt.