Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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The case for shorting Macquarie Group
For over a decade the firm has been the jewel in the crown of Australian finance. But have its shareholders become too complacent about its premium status?
Jonathan ShapiroSenior reporterMay 15, 2025 – 11.40amListen to this article6 minThis week Macquarie has been making headlines for all the wrong reasons.
The corporate regulator came out all guns blazing on Wednesday with allegations the financial services giant had failed to properly report short-selling data for 14 years.
It was the latest in a series of mishaps for Macquarie, which has been basking in the glory of positive press and a solid share price for the past 10 years.
But is the shine of the silver donut finally dimming? Does Macquarie still warrant its reputation as a vestige for brilliant minds to flourish and make themselves and their bosses and shareholders a lot of coin? Is the pride of Australian finance, one of just a few local firms to build a global brand, itself worth shorting?
Macquarie chairman Glenn Stevens, chief executive Shemara Wikramanayake and chief financial officer Alex Harvey front shareholders at its annual general meeting. Peter Rae
We checked the official short-selling data to find out if anyone was betting against Macquarie. If we assume the numbers are correct, there doesn’t seem to be all that much enthusiasm to anticipate a decline in Macquarie’s fortunes.
Shorting Macquarie
At present, about 0.7 per cent of outstanding shares have been loaned out to short sellers, which is about the middle of the three-year range of 0.25 per cent to 1 per cent.
And long-term readers will remember that it’s been almost two decades since someone was brave enough to publicly proclaim a short position against Macquarie.
That was in 2007 when globally renowned short seller Jim Chanos of firm Kynikos pitched a bet against the firm at New York’s Sohn conference.
His claim was that the group overpaid for its assets and used inflated valuation techniques. That prompted a swift formal response from Macquarie, which naturally took exception to his claims.
We do not know if Chanos did profit from his short position, which would have made money during the global financial crisis.
But Macquarie survived thanks in part to a federal government guarantee, and ultimately prospered. Since then, Macquarie has solidified its reputation as an astute and opportunistic organisation with a culture that rewards risk-takers.
While the big four banks retreated into the safety of mortgages, Macquarie had a licence to go anywhere and do anything and become a global asset management and deal-making powerhouse.
But is Macquarie the same institution it was a decade ago? The market doesn’t doubt it, even if the facts don’t fully support it.
Macquarie has had a tough time hitting its numbers. The firm’s earnings have been downgraded eight times in the past two years.
Macquarie has supporters on the street. Of the 11 analysts tracked by LSEG, five have a buy rating and just one has a sell. That compares to Commonwealth Bank which does not have a single buy rating.
And while active fund managers have been shunning Commonwealth Bank due to its excessive valuation, broker surveys suggest they’re happy to pay up to hold Macquarie.
However, the group has done very little of late to justify its lofty premium of 20 times next year’s earnings. And any analyst who doubts Macquarie’s shrewdness might struggle to endorse a buy recommendation at such a high multiple.
For starters, Macquarie has had a tough time hitting its numbers. The firm’s earnings have been downgraded eight times in the past two years, and it needed to pull a few levers – such as selling its helicopter leasing business and cutting compensation – to hit them this time around.
The narrative is that Macquarie is being conservative and that the numbers will improve, but that has not happened yet.
The group’s struggles are evident in a fall in its return on equity which has slid to around 10 per cent, well below the two-decade average of 14 per cent.
When compared to a cost of capital of about 9.5 per cent, it is hard to regard Macquarie as a money-making machine.
By comparison, Commonwealth Bank’s ROE is 14 per cent against a 7 per cent cost of capital, which based on those numbers is far worthier of trading at a premium to the market.
Difficult to value
Macquarie is notoriously difficult to value given its multiple businesses such as asset management, banking, and commodity trading. The latter has been a real money spinner but the volatility of earnings means they’re considered less valuable than more reliable, albeit lower income-generating businesses.
Yet on most measures, Macquarie trades at a substantial premium to its global and domestic banking peers despite its falling profitability.
Finally, Macquarie has a few problems. One is the $1.3 billion of green energy assets stuck on its balance sheet. There seems to be unwavering confidence that the market will recover, and the group can offload its exposures at the right price.
But the jury is out on green assets and in time the pressure will mount to prove the investments were sound.
The other new problem is that Macquarie is in the crosshairs of the Australian Securities and Investments Commission who has called it out for “complacency” and hubris”. That might result in big fines and could result in the prudential regulator taking a dim view of its banking operation, which needs capital to grow.
Analysts broadly remain confident that Macquarie will ultimately get back on track and restore profitability to levels that resemble its past glories.
There are sound reasons to believe it will. Macquarie has told investors it has been conserving capital and liquidity and so will be well-placed to take advantage of opportunities should they arise.
And the management pep talk to staff is that they’re operating in areas where there are huge runways for growth. In private assets they can muscle in on the turf of Blackstone, in Australian retail banking the Commonwealth Bank’s market share is up for grabs, and in deal-making they can dent the dominance of JPMorgan.
But can Macquarie lay claim to have an edge in any of these arenas? Is it still the best investor in infrastructure a decade on from its glory days? The foray into green assets suggests otherwise.
And after making a killing in commodities, their trading talent has been snapped up by aggressive competitors, such as Citadel and Millennium Management, which are playing to win. At best, it’s likely the returns will be lower in that area.
So that’s the short case for Macquarie: a good business valued as though it’s a great one that in time may fall back into the pack if it can’t lift its returns.
But good luck betting against it. Macquarie retains the unwavering faith of Australian investors. Underwhelming earnings, green energy woes and now a stoush with the corporate regulator are not enough to dim its sparkle.
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$212.52 |
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Mkt cap ! $80.99B |
Open | High | Low | Value | Volume |
$211.63 | $213.50 | $211.43 | $183.4M | 862.4K |
Buyers (Bids)
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1 | 945 | $212.50 |
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Price($) | Vol. | No. |
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$212.54 | 134 | 1 |
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1 | 945 | 212.500 |
3 | 1184 | 212.440 |
1 | 1322 | 212.180 |
1 | 1320 | 212.070 |
1 | 107 | 212.040 |
Price($) | Vol. | No. |
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212.610 | 20 | 1 |
212.770 | 180 | 1 |
212.900 | 100 | 1 |
212.920 | 315 | 1 |
213.000 | 50 | 1 |
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