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Precisely, and they persistently muddy the waters with irrelevant claims about RISK.
When pressed they admit the risk is about pharmaceutical trials, which have a colossal amount of risk and are irrelevant to stem cells, but they're trying to scare the less well researched, and it's worked a treat.

We've had long dissertations from the purportedly 'concerned' about so called risk, but you can never pin them down. When pressed, the misleading rubbish just grew into an avalanche, and there were more backslappers in here cheering them on and going on the personal attack against anyone who got in the way. Others stepped back, misled or unwilling to step into the ring. It was a blood sport.

Macbank and some other key players have got blood on their hands with shorting and . Participants in chat rooms behave as if they're not accountable, but they are. It's probable that some have been consulting lawyers because I've been warning them to back off and they did not, but they changed tactics slightly. (One in particular had obviously been wearing out the carpet to his lawyers' office. Yes, conspiracy is difficult to prove mate,... but that's not the only thing this is about). This is about ethical conduct and the lack of. The mood of the public is turning on this, and you can see that from the culture in the banks which is now beginning to be exposed. In fact it's an election issue and the public have had enough. Self regulation is a joke, and the joke is on the average person who has tolerated this nonsense.

ASIC is going to get more resources to conduct some proper investigations and this might mean some suddenly find themselves living in interesting times. It's an offence to destroy evidence that could reasonably be expected to be evidence in a prosecution. It's an indictable offence.

The problem with Nixon wasn't the Watergate break-in, it was the coverup that did him in. It's been a very nasty experience and it's not over.