1 Cor 15:47 -
The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord (Jesus) from
heaven.
How does "God" say Jesus come from Heaven?
Isa 55:8-11 - For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
(John 4:24 - Spirit God (is) = God's Spirit (Him) has thoughts - 1 Cor 2:11)
For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
John 8:42 - Jesus said unto them, If God were "your" Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
(Came proceeded forth, came from God = Mary -
sent me = After Baptism, where God so much loved the Son and gave him, The Spirit/Word without measure
SO = John 5:26 - For as the Father hath life in himself, so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself.
Luke 1:31 - And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. = (Almighty God and Father is Salvation).
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Mark 1:11 - And there came a voice from heaven, saying, ( shall be called) Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. (Likewise, so am "I", because our God says so, and Jesus is clearly Deity)
Deity = is either a natural or super natural being, who is thought of as holy, divine or sacred and "THIS" is "WHAT" I believe!
So with Jesus here, we have super natural "and" natural.
The latter was necessary, to be able to suffer death, that means, "HE" could not have been eternal before being raised.
However, we better not rely on wotsup's word, and let God Speak on that matter;
Greek - 1 Tim 6:16 - Who only having, immortality, in light dwelling unapproachabe, whom did see no one of men, and dominion-power eternal. Amen. (Almighty God and Father is Light 1 John 1:5, so it is His light, giving Jesus, immortality). God's Word is Also Light AND right!
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forth out of my mouth: Out of the mouth of God, to the Angel, "so shall "my" Word be!
Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
So you have The highest, The Father and LORD GOD = all ONE IN THE SAME = ONE GOD as in ONE apple!
JOHN's KEY purpose, Message - To introduce The Word of Life, from within The Almighty God and Father, IN him from the Beginning and after verse 1:3 of John, it is with reference TO = The Eternal aspect of The Word of Life, which Jesus after John 1:13, was to bring into the world, like never before to "FINISH" the "Almighty God & Fathers Works = Hence Jesus on the cross saying = It is FINISHED, delivered!
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John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with (The) God and "God" was the Word.
Spirit God (is), with thought, plan = The"Same" (thought, plan = inner Word) was in the beginning with God = 1:3 Let there be Life = The Word of Life! = The Fruit on the Tree, Eternal Words = God.
John 1:4 In Him (God) was life and that life was the light of men = Psa 119:105.
At Jesus Baptism = For as the Father hath life in himself so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself =SO He could FINISH the Fathers work, which had began at the Beginning. God's Word is Spirit = Jesus received - Spirit/Word without Measure, to give life.
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So it would seem, IT IS You Glyco, denying the TRUE deity of Jesus and LOWERING the sacrifice and in so doing, CORRUPTING the Simplicity which is in Jesus.
YOU have the cheek, to suggest this and that about me,, when ALL I do is quote, The Word OF God.
THINK for 2 Sec's - Would it be easier for God to put Himself on the Cross or to put His beloved Son on there??????????
Jesus with spirit as of man, Much like unto Moses, raised, led and taught by His God & Father, for around 30 yrs and YET, HE did NOT sin, the example for US, much harder for him to do than God = WHO,,, exactly,, is belittling the extent, as to WHAT, Jesus accomplished?????
Jesus was GIVEN the power etc, he could have got high and mighty and attempted, to do his own will, BUT, NOOO, he emptied himself of that thought and HUMBLED himself and acted like Man = That my friend, IS what Jesus, ,,,
emptied himself of!
Picture a scene - Satan, made perfect, divine etc, says to God,,,,,,Oh well,,,, if you made me such,,,clearly it's your fault, otherwise I wouldn't have done such.
OK,,,, God says,,,I'm fair and reasonable, I will give you plenty of time, and I will send someone LOWER than angel's and "I" will show YOU, how wrong you are!
Guess what happened Glyco?
So just remember the likes of what Jesus says - What you do to the least of my people, You do to Me also
I WILL, guard the Temple and will NOT allow this copy/paste of man, Your god, to enter!
Jesus says, the likes of, I came out from, forth from, down from, proceedeth from, And God says, as my word.....= Isa 55:8 and onward.
