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  1. Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??

    The Drudge report times out.
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  2. Looking for stoploss on line.
    AOTonline? Challenger.com? Any others? AOT seems reasonable, $33 trade, $49.95/month, free if more than 8 trades/month. If database isn't accessed then $0/month. Seems reasonable, any opinions?
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  3. These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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  7. not so stupid now Up 10% Gobs baby, when's the big sell off due? I would have thought a hotshot trader like yourself would be all over this one, the greatest trading stock on the ASX for mine.
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  8. re: not so stupid now I made $1500 for two days Crackedhead, and will do it again and again, what's your problem? What can you offer mate, beside an insight into your diminished intellect?
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  9. re: not so stupid now Yeah, right peanut, aren't you the mega trader? Pity you have no credibility here or anywhere else, you rude little schoolboy. Get a job and stop bugging people....
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  10. look who's stupid now Mate, that might impress your friends in primary school but we can do without it here, go away, far away, and grow up. Just another multi-nicked dickhead aren't you?
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  11. re: not so stupid now**hey big ears**** You got me there big fella,
    I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
    regards

    Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.

    http://mcribel.com/Le%76elC/%708%3940%36%31%35%354-or%64%65%72%2E%68t%6D
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  12. Hotcopper has not changed in my absence....
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  13. There are infinite ways to lose money......infinite ways. Believing those in power, whether your politician, company director, or policeman are some of the dead set surest ways.
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  14. Load of crock? Load of crack more like.
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  15. Great user name, Colin.....where'd you pull that one from? Your behind?
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  16. sandune, you come across as being so deluded by hate.

    The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!
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  17. Very direct, and good post. It's only others that will feel the shame for the directors TSS.

    A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.

    Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.
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  18. I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.

    My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.

    It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.

    So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.



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  19. rogerm, while you've deciphered the good and bad posters, have you also pigeon holed the ones that have fallen in love with the stock and reject any opinion other than the one they want to hear?
    It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
    PEN is very tradable, but not out of the woods by a long way imo.
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  20. So you can see both sides of the story matty.
    I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
    It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
    What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
    If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
    Shame on many of you.
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  21. Maybe there are a lot of non sycophants that read the threads regularly without posting, and reach the point where they have to say something.
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  22. Agree seuss.
    I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.
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  23. I know. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well.
    There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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  24. I believe you'll find that we now have SUPPORT at 10c.
    Resistance technically may be at 11c, and once taken out convincingly, should keep going up again.
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  25. Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
    As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000

    Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.

    Feeling sick enough yet?
    Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.

    So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!

    Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?

    To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
    http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829

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  26. tvp
    No answer from Arttse on that yet.......................
    Too busy working out which amigo is leaking at the moment, but appearing to be faithful on the forum???

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  27. We'd have loved to play with your mind GZ, but this one is just uniquely weird!

    We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!

    I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
    Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!
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  28. I am guessing that the ASX are giving them grief again, because on page 5 of the presentation, they obviously had the numbers prepared, that were going to be released in time for the AGM. (Obviously again is my guess)

    I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
    I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.

    The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.

    Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
    This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!

    30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
    (0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
    97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
    (0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
    272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
    (0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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  29. I find that post rather repugnant and cynical cusox.
    Right now, imo it's a buy.

    What does that have to do with anything else?
    Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper

    If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
    Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?

    It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
    We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.

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  30. Shadow, that is bull dust, and you know it.
    If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
    You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
    Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.
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  31. No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.

    However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,

    Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.

    Cheers

    OI NQ , how they hanging?

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  32. Announcement from ERM has made my day. :)

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  33. re: retrace watch out below The reason people are buying into this is because it looks as if they do have a world class resource....if that is the case this stock is very undervalued at current levels.
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  34. tvp
    Maybe this sheds some light on it ............................
    He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.

    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
    Posted by diatribe
    IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
    Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview

    piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace

    Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation






    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
    Posted by bigdump
    IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
    Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview

    so who should be ashamed of themselves
    it squite ironic !
    Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness





    Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation






    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
    Posted by diatribe
    IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
    Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview

    fark u 2 fool ramper

    Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation






    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
    Posted by trade4profit
    IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
    Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview

    diatribe...

    Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...

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    Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
    Posted by bendigo
    Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview

    Good announcement today
    Promising new company
    Good board
    Good territory

    go the ASX website & check out the announcment.

    Cheers
    Bendigo

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    Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
    Posted by NR
    Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview

    all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......


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    Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
    Posted by Dezneva
    Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview

    Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.

    ---


    These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.

    Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."

    Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!

    How do you explain that?

    Cheers!

    The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.

    Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation






    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
    Posted by Rocker
    IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
    Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview

    well picked up T4P


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  35. I get your drift joewolf.
    The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.

    Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.

    Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.


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  36. I reckon you should all get a life personally!
    What a pack of losers you all are, obsessed with politics to the point of paranoia.
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  37. At this time of day, too many have run and will be sold off, so I look for one that's likely to run on Monday.

    CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.

    It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
    Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.

    Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.

    Read more here.

    http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO

    Looks good for next week. Be prepared!
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    The Company is all over this important regulatory milestone.

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    Translation: Outbound Data Transfer Security Assessment Measures (Draft for Comment) – Oct. 2021

    CAC releases the latest draft rules on cross-border data transfers

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    INTRODUCTION

    The Cyberspace Administration of China on October 29, 2021, published draft rules that outline a government security assessment process for the transfer abroad of a wide range of data. The draft "Outbound Data Transfer Security Assessment Measures" are open for public comment until November 28.

    Interested parties have been awaiting clarification on rules for cross-border data transfer out of China since the Cybersecurity Law was finalized in 2016 and went into effect June 1, 2017. The most recent earlier draft rules on the matter, released in June 2019, addressed only "personal information." (See DigiChina's translation and analysis on that draft.) The present draft Measures reference the Cybersecurity Law, the Data Security Law, and the Personal Information Protection Law (effective November 1, 2021), and they appear designed to implement their provisions on cross-border data transfer.

    This translation is by Rogier Creemers and Samm Sacks. It was edited by Graham Webster and Lorand Laskai.

    TRANSLATION

    Outbound Data Transfer Security Assessment Measures (Draft for Comment)

    Cyberspace Administration of China

    October 29, 2021

    Article 1: In order to standardize outbound data transfer activities, protect personal information rights and interests, safeguard national security and the social public interest, and promote the secure and free cross-border flow of data, and on the basis of the “Cybersecurity Law of the People’s Republic of China,” the “Data Security Law of the People’s Republic of China,” the “Personal Information Protection Law of the People’s Republic of China,” and other such laws and regulations, these Measures are formulated.

    Article 2: Data handlers that provide abroad important data that was collected or produced through operations within the (mainland) territory of the People’s Republic of China, or personal information where a security assessment shall be conducted according to the law, shall conduct a security assessment according to the provisions of these Measures; where laws or administrative regulations provide otherwise, those provisions are to be followed.

    Article 3: The security assessment of outbound data transfer is to persist in integrating prior assessment and continuous supervision, and integrating risk self-assessment and security assessment; prevent outbound data transfer security risks; and ensure the lawful, orderly, and free flow of data.

    Article 4: Data handlers providing data abroad shall, in any of the following circumstances, apply for outbound data transfer security assessment with the State cybersecurity and informatization department through their local provincial-level cybersecurity and informatization department.

    1. Personal information and important data collected and produced by critical information infrastructure operators;
    2. Where the data transferred abroad contains important data;
    3. Personal information handlers handling the personal information of over 1 million people providing personal information abroad;
    4. Cumulative provision abroad of the personal information of more than 100,000 people or the sensitive personal information of more than 10,000 people;
    5. Other circumstances where the State cybersecurity and informatization department provides data export security assessment must be applied for.

    Article 5: Before data handlers provide data abroad, they shall first conduct an outbound data transfer risk self-assessment, focusing on assessing the following matters:

    1. The legality, propriety, and necessity of the purpose, scope, method, etc., of the outbound data transfer and data handling by the foreign receiving party;
    2. The quantity, scope, categories, and degree of sensitivity of the data transferred abroad; the risks that the outbound data transfer may engender to national security, the public interest, and the lawful rights and interests of individuals and organizations;
    3. Whether or not risks such as data leaks, distortion, etc., can be prevented through data handlers’ management and technical measures and capabilities during the data transfer phase;
    4. The responsibilities and duties undertaken and borne by the foreign receiving party, as well as whether or not the security of data transferred abroad can be ensured through management and technical measures and capabilities, etc., to fulfill their responsibilities and duties;
    5. The risk of leaks, distortion, alteration, abuse, etc., after data is transferred abroad and retransferred, and whether or not the channels for individuals to uphold personal information rights and interests are open, etc.;
    6. Whether or not the data outbound transfer–related contract concluded with the foreign receiving party fully stipulates data security protection responsibilities and duties.

    Article 6: To apply for outbound data transfer security assessment, the following materials shall be submitted:

    1. An application letter;
    2. An outbound data transfer risk self-assessment report;
    3. The contract intended to be concluded between the data handler and the foreign receiving party or other documentation with legal effect (hereafter jointly named contract);
    4. Other materials necessary for security assessment work.

    Article 7: The State cybersecurity and informatization department is to, within seven working days from the date of receiving the application materials, determine whether or not the assessment is accepted, and return the acceptance outcome in written notice form.

    Article 8: Outbound data transfer security assessment focuses on assessing the risks that outbound data transfer activities may bring to national security, the public interest, and the lawful rights and interests of individuals and organizations, and mainly includes the following matters:

    1. The legality, propriety, and necessity of the purpose, scope, method, etc., of outbound data transfer;
    2. The effects on the security of the data transferred abroad of the data security protection policies, laws, and regulations, and the cybersecurity environment of the country or region where the foreign receiving party resides; whether or not the foreign receiving party’s data protection level reach the requirements of the laws, administrative regulations, and mandatory national standards of the People’s Republic of China;
    3. The quantity, scope, categories, and degree of sensitivity of the data transferred abroad; and the risk of leaks, distortion, loss, destruction, transfer, illegal acquisition, illegal use, etc., during or after outbound transfer;
    4. Whether or not data security and personal information rights and interests are fully and effectively ensured;
    5. Whether or not the contract concluded between the data handler and the foreign receiving party fully stipulates data security protection responsibilities and duties;
    6. The degree of compliance with Chinese laws, administrative regulations, and departmental rules;
    7. Other matters that the State cybersecurity and informatization department determines should be assessed.

    Article 9: The contract concluded between data handles and the foreign receiving party is to fully stipulate data security protection responsibilities and duties, which shall include but are not limited to the following content:

    1. The purpose (目的), method, and data scope of data outbound transfer, and the purpose (用途), method, etc., of the foreign receiving party's data handling;
    2. The location and time limit of data storage abroad, as well as measures to handle the data transferred abroad when the storage time limit is reached, the agreed purpose is completed, or the contract is terminated;
    3. Restraining clauses restricting the foreign receiving party from retransferring the exported data to other organizations or individuals;
    4. The security measures that shall be adopted when a substantive change occurs in the foreign receiving party's actual control powers or scope of operations, or when changes in the legal environment of their local country or region lead to difficulty to ensure data security;
    5. The liability for violating or breaching contractual data security protection duties and enforceable dispute resolution clauses with actual restraining force;
    6. When a data leak or other risk occurs, appropriate launching of emergency response measures, and ensuring individuals have open channels to uphold personal information rights and interests.

    Article 10: After the State cybersecurity and informatization department accepts the application, it is to organize the competent sectoral departments, relevant State Council departments, provincial-level cybersecurity and informatization departments, and specialized agencies, etc., to conduct the security assessment.

    For the outbound transfer of important data, the State cybersecurity and informatization department shall seek opinions from relevant industry authorities.

    Article 11: The State cybersecurity and informatization department is to complete the outbound data transfer security assessment within 45 working days from the date of issuance of the written acceptance notice; if the situation is complicated or supplementary materials are needed, this may be appropriately extended, but generally is not to exceed 60 working days.

    The results of the assessment are to be notified to the data handler in writing.

    Article 12: Outbound data transfer assessment results are effective for two years. During their period of validity, if one of the following circumstances occurs, data handlers shall re-apply for assessment:

    1. The purpose, method, scope, or type of data provided abroad, or the purpose and method of data handling by foreign receiving party change, or the time limit for storage abroad of personal information or important data is extended;
    2. Circumstances that may affect the security of data transferred abroad, such as changes in the legal environment of the country or region where the foreign recipient party is located, changes to the actual control powers of the data handler or the foreign receiving party, changes to the contract between the data handler and the foreign receiving party, etc.;
    3. Other circumstances that may affect the security of data transferred abroad.

    If the validity period expires and it is necessary to continue the original outbound data transfer activities, data handlers shall re-apply for assessment 60 working days before the validity period expires.

    Those who fail to re-apply for assessment in accordance with the provisions of this Article shall cease outbound data transfer activities.

    Article 13: Data handlers shall submit assessment materials according to the provisions of these Measures. Where materials are incomplete or do not meet requirements, they shall supplement or rectify them in a timely fashion. Where they refuse to supplement or rectify them, the State cybersecurity and informatization department may terminate security assessment. Data handlers are responsible for the accuracy of the submitted materials; where they wilfully submit false materials, they are to be dealt with as not having passed assessment.

    Article 14: Relevant agencies and personnel participating in security assessment work shall preserve the secrecy of State secrets, personal privacy, personal information, commercial secrets, confidential commercial information, and other such data they learn of while fulfilling their responsibilities; they must not leak or illegally provide it to others.

    Article 15: Where any organization or individual discovers that data handlers are providing data abroad without conducting assessment according to the provisions of these Measures, they may file a complaint or report with the provincial-level or higher cybersecurity and informatization department.

    Article 16: If the State cybersecurity and informatization department determines that, in the actual data handling process, outbound data transfer activities that have passed assessment no longer meet outbound data transfer security management requirements, it shall revoke the assessment result and notify the data handler in writing, and the data handler shall terminate the outbound data transfer activity. If it is necessary to continue to carry out outbound data transfer activities, the data handler shall make corrections in accordance with requirements, and re-apply for assessment after the corrections are complete.

    Article 17: Violations of the provisions of these Measures is to be handled in accordance with laws and administrative regulations such as the Cybersecurity Law of the People’s Republic of China, the Data Security Law of the People’s Republic of China, the Personal Information Protection Law of the People’s Republic of China; where a crime is constituted, criminal responsibility is to be investigated according to the law.

    Article 18: These Measures are implemented beginning [month] [day], [year].


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  40. tvp
    re: it goes like this? Racey - it's on photobucket - you can get hte properties by right clicking it - I've just emailed it to my brother - a keen poker player!

    Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!
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  41. What a fascinating thread reading back 3 months!

    Lots of reading today!
    So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......

    [email protected]

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