you both make good points but at this point you would say wogboy prob wins the fight .plenty of speco miners have promised the world but not many come up with the goods .and the fact is, it is still a speco like it or not .now i hold this stock but now only 250000 i sold 50000 today at my avg .the volume is terrible for a day like today it could stay at this price for a very long time ,the only good news is it does seem safe from more selling .
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