Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
The Drudge report times out.
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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Sharenot so stupid now Up 10% Gobs baby, when's the big sell off due? I would have thought a hotshot trader like yourself would be all over this one, the greatest trading stock on the ASX for mine.
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Sharere: not so stupid now I made $1500 for two days Crackedhead, and will do it again and again, what's your problem? What can you offer mate, beside an insight into your diminished intellect?
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Sharere: not so stupid now Yeah, right peanut, aren't you the mega trader? Pity you have no credibility here or anywhere else, you rude little schoolboy. Get a job and stop bugging people....
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Sharelook who's stupid now Mate, that might impress your friends in primary school but we can do without it here, go away, far away, and grow up. Just another multi-nicked dickhead aren't you?
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Sharere: not so stupid now**hey big ears**** You got me there big fella,
I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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ShareThere are infinite ways to lose money......infinite ways. Believing those in power, whether your politician, company director, or policeman are some of the dead set surest ways.
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Sharesandune, you come across as being so deluded by hate.
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ShareVery direct, and good post. It's only others that will feel the shame for the directors TSS.
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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Sharerogerm, while you've deciphered the good and bad posters, have you also pigeon holed the ones that have fallen in love with the stock and reject any opinion other than the one they want to hear?
It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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ShareSo you can see both sides of the story matty.
I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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ShareAgree seuss.
I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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ShareI know. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well.
There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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- Snap's warning hits sentiment
- Wall Street futures drop
- UK windfall energy tax plans hit utilities
- STOXX 600 loses 0.7%
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SOME BULLISH VIEWPOINTS (1101 GMT) Stock bears have a lot on their plate, with fears about a hard landing of the U.S. economy adding to war-induced growth risks and China's lockdown policy.
UBS analysts say markets may have overreacted negatively to recent disappointing news, mentioning comments from JPMorgan Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon.
Here are some facts UBS analysts flag, suggesting investors to prepare for further volatility.
"The hawkish shift in Fed rhetoric over the last month appears to have helped keep inflation expectations under control," they say, adding U.S. 10-year breakeven inflation rates have fallen to 2.61% from 3.1%.
They see early signs in the U.S. that labour demand may be starting to slow, which should help moderate wage growth, inflation expectations and the Fed tightening.
Last week's recent warnings from Walmart and Target on profit margins are not so scary as they could reflect the normalization of spending back to services from goods after the post-pandemic pent-up demand, they say.
"We continue to believe that investors will want more clarity on the 3Rs -- recession, rates, and risk -- before sentiment is likely to improve more durably," Mark Haefele, Chief Investment Officer, UBS Global Wealth Management.
The outlook remains pretty gloomy for risky assets. Shares slid worldwide on Tuesday as fears about weak earnings and slowing growth punctured the recent mini-rally.
China shares fell as stricter COVID-19 measures in the country's capital reignited worries over slowing growth despite Beijing's pledges of further economic support.
(Stefano Rebaudo)
***** LESSONS FROM ROYAL MAIL AND ITV'S POTENTIAL FTSE 100 EXIT
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Royal Mail .RMG.L and ITV .ITV.L both face potential demotion from the FTSE 100 with their market capitalisations now well below top FTSE 250 rivals after losing 36.9% and 35.1% respectively year-to-date.
The FTSE All Share Index Quarterly Review is due to be announced at the start of June and with it will come lessons about shifting post-pandemic trends.
"The latest quarterly review comes amid an evaporation of investor confidence as worries ratchet up about the impact of soaring inflation and rising interest rates on growth at a time when the global economy is still adjusting to changes brought about by the pandemic," Hargreaves Lansdown analyst Streeter argued in a note.
For Royal Mail, declining post-pandemic parcel numbers and rising stamp prices amid soaring inflation are weighing on the stock, although its automation drive and the fact that parcel numbers are higher than before the pandemic helps, Streeter said.
Meanwhile fierce competition in the streaming sector combined with a cost-of-living crisis are seen as headwinds for ITV.
Centrica .CNA.L , up 12.4% YTD, and Johnson Matthey’s .JMAT.L , up 13%, are both contenders for entry back into the FTSE 100.
"Centrica’s fortunes have lifted along with higher energy prices (...) while investors are giving Johnson Matthey the benefit of the doubt even though it hasn’t as yet carved out its future in the electric world", Streeter added.
You can see below how Royal Mail and Centrica have trailed behind the FTSE 100 so far this year while Centrica and Johnson Matthey outperformed:
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***** LAGARDE REMARKS: HAWKISH OR DOVISH? (0919 GMT)
No doubt, remarks from European Central Bank president Christine Lagarde are the hot topic as it's the first time she has spoken so clearly about the future central bank's moves.
However, analysts seem to believe these comments were not so hawkish considering the recent surge in yields on monetary tightening expectations.
Lagarde's statements which implied two 25 bps rate hikes in July and September "was priced in the rates market," MUFG analysts said.
"But it was the most explicit comment yet from a senior governing council member suggesting consecutive rate hikes, which in turn adds credibility to potentially four rate hikes this year in total," they added.
"Markets are taking the Lagarde's confirmation in a stride," Commerzbank analysts say about yesterday's remarks by Lagarde.
"After all, a steep path had already been discounted, and her insistence on gradualism, optionality and flexibility appears to be reducing the risk of bolder 50bp hikes," they add.
Last week ECB official Klaas Knot said a 50 bps July rate hike was possible if inflation broadened.
Euro zone bond yields are falling by around 4 bps after today's further comments from Lagarde forecasting the ECB's deposit rate at zero or "slightly above" zero by the end of September.
Money markets are still pricing in around 105 bps of rate hikes by year-end.
(Stefano Rebaudo)
***** WINDFALL TAX THREAT SINKS IN FOR BRITISH UTILITIES (0848
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European utilities are accelerating their early morning losses and are now down over 3%, set for their worst daily performance since March.
Much of the downward pressure is directed to UK groups after the FT reported that Britain's finance minister Rishi Sunak has ordered to draw up plans for a possible windfall tax on more than 10 billion pounds of excess profits by electricity generators, including wind farm operators.
"This news adds to negative sentiment on regulation in the sector and could impact RWE, SSE, DRX, CNA, IBE, EDF, IBE & ORSTED within our coverage", Jefferies analysts wrote in a note this morning, adding that "in the long term, we see a windfall tax as harmful to UK energy".
Questions are also being raised about how the windfall tax could impact future investments.
"While it is right that some support should be given to those most in need during these difficult times, the way in which new funds are raised means the Government runs the risk that energy companies slow down investment in new green projects which could make it harder for the country to hit its net zero emissions targets," said Russ Mould, investment director at AJ Bell.
One stock is being singled out in particular and that's Drax, losing 18%, after its rating and target price was cut by Citi which believes the company is one of the most vulnerable to possible new taxes.
Also see: - BUZZ-UK power companies plunge on report of potential windfall tax
(Julien Ponthus)
**** SNAP! (0748 GMT)
How much of this morning's losses can be attributed to Snap slashing its earnings forecast is open to debate but it sure played a big role in sending the market into risk-off.
Snap's Frankfurt-listed shares are losing a whopping 35% and Nasdaq futures are down almost 2%.
"Snap has put the focus again on the growth issue and the slowing down of activity which indeed seems to be taking place", commented Stephane Ekolo, global equity strategist at Tradition in London.
The social media company said the economy had worsened faster than expected in the last month.
The STOXX 600 is losing 0.9% and European tech is feeling the heat with a 1.6% fall.
Utilities, down 2.5%, are the worst performing sector with a spectacular 13% slide for Britain's Drax following a downgrade from Citi.
"Drax is one of the most operationally geared to a fall in commodity prices and/or political intervention in the power sector", the bank's analysts explained in a note.
Another big loser with a 6.8% drop is Air France-KLM which announced a 2.26-billion-euro rights issue to repair its balance sheet and further repay French state aid.
(Julien Ponthus)
***** I KNOW WHAT YOU'LL DO THIS SUMMER (0701 GMT)
European Central Bank President Christine Lagarde openly admitted for the first time what investors had already been betting on for a while: negative interest rates, a eurozone feature for eight years, will most likely be gone by the end of summer.
With inflation running at a record 7.4% in the euro zone and money markets pricing over 100 basis points of hikes by end-2022, the candid tone of Lagarde's announcement was perhaps the most surprising news for investors.
Government bond yields firmed, the euro rose and Lagarde will have a chance to give more details when she speaks at Davos after a fresh batch of indicators on European business activity.
But all eyes are now on the U.S. Federal Reserve with high expectations that the minutes from the May meeting released on Wednesday will show a commitment to swiftly tighten in a bid to tame inflation.
Chair Jerome Powell speaks later on Tuesday and no doubt investors will be hoping for a fresh update on his intentions.
Much of the recent market turmoil across stock markets has been blamed on central banks turning hawkish and many strategists believe only a dovish policy shift could turn the table in their favour again.
Blackrock cut developed markets equities to "neutral" from "overweight" but added that a "dovish pivot by the Fed" would make its analysts consider increasing exposure back to stocks again.
In the meantime, stock markets seem set for a rough session on Tuesday with European and U.S. futures trading deeply in the red while cash trading in Asia is also set to close in negative territory.
The upbeat last session on Wall Street gradually gave way to a risk-off sentiment and Nasdaq futures are now down close to 2% with traders blaming part of the mood swing to an earnings warning from Snap.
Key developments that should provide more direction to markets on Tuesday:
- Japan's May factory activity grows at slowest rate in 3 months - flash PMI
- China's property market woes expected to worsen in 2022
- Purchasing Managers' Index (PMI) across Europe - Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell gives welcome remarks before the National Center for American Indian Enterprise Development (NCAIED).
- Opening remarks by ECB President Christine Lagarde at "Europe's Global Role" dinner during the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland
- Riksbank Financial Stability Report 2022 - Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia issues Non manufacturing Business Outlook Survey for May
(Julien Ponthus)
***** ASIA, EUROPE AND THE U.S. LOSE GROUND (0546 GMT)
For once, the three regions are moving in sync: European and Wall Street futures are trading in the red while cash trading in Asia is also set to close in negative territory.
The upbeat last session on Wall Street gradually gave way to a risk-off sentiment and Nasdaq futures are now down close to 2% with traders blaming an earnings warning from Snap.
In Europe, futures are losing about 0.7%.
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ShareWe'd have loved to play with your mind GZ, but this one is just uniquely weird!
We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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ShareI am guessing that the ASX are giving them grief again, because on page 5 of the presentation, they obviously had the numbers prepared, that were going to be released in time for the AGM. (Obviously again is my guess)
I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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ShareI find that post rather repugnant and cynical cusox.
Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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ShareShadow, that is bull dust, and you know it.
If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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Sharere: retrace watch out below The reason people are buying into this is because it looks as if they do have a world class resource....if that is the case this stock is very undervalued at current levels.
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ShareMaybe this sheds some light on it ............................
He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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ShareI get your drift joewolf.
The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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ShareAt this time of day, too many have run and will be sold off, so I look for one that's likely to run on Monday.
CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Sharere: it goes like this? Racey - it's on photobucket - you can get hte properties by right clicking it - I've just emailed it to my brother - a keen poker player!
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ShareWhat a fascinating thread reading back 3 months!
Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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