Hi Zipper
I mentioned wine ( there is a connection)
I have a friend who had his own vineyard and has been heavily into wine so can tell you all the techniques and areas where grapes are grown etc
But I really just like a good drink, expensive or cheap as long as I like it, so most times the average person likes what suits them and most do not worry about the techniques used to produce it, same with art, photos or majority of things in our lives
Yes sunrises are good
