Hi buddy management of plv were the bees knees compared too WM at CDU it just goes too show I may have judged him to harshly,and market forces along with the gun at the head by big players,was the cause,and with this in mind,and having been on the red scale for a few $100.000s when the jorc for CDU was released,perhaps plv holders should not panic and ride the wave for a while,I kow how you feel and I wish you well.