" I doubt you would find any users of these who didn't start...

" I doubt you would find any users of these who didn't start with illicit marijuana. Very few would go from zero to hard drugs."

Non-sense.

Our group had alot of fun smoking marijuana when we were young, until most of us saw the short-comings of it and grew out of it.

Some got stuck on it, sapping their vitality and innate happiness.

But we did it for fun. We shared many good times. Music, camping, up the coast, surf, good laughs, lasting friendships.

But none moved on to harder drugs.

I would say there are hard drug users have gone from zero to hard drugs (although I have no statistics to support this).