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  1. cya
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    a few observations all of which are relevant to gold, in deflation all things priced in gold fall, this is very important because gold might still fall but it wont in relation to the price of goods, in this kinds of scenario gold could fall to say USD $500 but be rising against all asset classes. If gold falls by say 50% but everything else falls by 75% then your better off holding gold, measuring gold in fiat money terms is ludicrous you can only measure it in terms of things it can buy

    thats why all the old school Austrian economists measured the gold price in terms of commodities

    sit with this a bit because it takes a bit to get you head around it and no Im not suggesting gold will fall by 50% im just using this as an illustration of comparative pricing.

    Think about it , isnt it hilarious that gold bugs who believe fiat money is worthless, actually measure the price of gold in worthless paper money! This is why the Austrians chose to measure its price in real goods it could buy, they realized it could actually fall and still preserve your wealth


    comparisons with 1907 or 1929-32 ignore the fact that prices actually crashed in 1920

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    priced in gold the clear end of commodity cycle can be seen to happen in 1920 both Kondratiev and Schumpeter used this as their timing for the downwave

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    The British economy the command economy at the time crashed 10 years earlier than the US

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    German stock prices followed the British

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    we are looking at a much larger government sector this time around in ratio to the private sector


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    The declines globally happened 10 years earlier, these combined commodity and equity declines are what kicked of the Weimer Hyperinflation and the Russian revolution

    Here we see global equity declines our obsession with US economic history tricks us into believing that 1929 was the turning point it actually happened much earlier

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    Then when the global reflation took hold after 1920 equities boomed for another 10 years (note the +1000% increase of german equities) and the 73% increase of British economy.

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    then when we do get to 1929 all the ships sink together (note the British economy took to 1954 to recover from 1921 crash +30 years

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    I think where people are missing the point is they substitute US economic history for global economic history and make the comparisons with 1929-31

    Where as if you look at the actual numbers the US is in a mirror of Britain and France in the 1920's (which is just as bad)

    An interesting observation was while asset markets expanding in some European countries the underlying economy stagnated , the consumption of commodities in England, France, Russia and German stayed flat for most of the 1920's, it was in the US that commodity consumption had strong growth while commodity prices throughout the 1920s remained slowly rose

    This suggests that if the US mimic Britain in the 1920s equity prices may fall another 30% or more and may not recover till 2044 and China will possibly triple by 2020

    the trick price deflation actually started in 1920 not 1930 (as per the chart on prices measured in gold)

    Schumpeter re checked Kondratievs figure and confirmed them both in 1932-40-52 with slight variations between them

    Here we have Schumpeter in a letter to Kuznets dating the start of the global depression as 1926

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    I have masses and masses of old data in my library that has almost every sector of the economy turning down starting in the 1920's I will post it over the next few days , be assured that the number show a massive downturn in incomes , prices and trade starting in 1920, postulating that the world has been tricked into thinking fiat based asset inflation was actually economic health, similar to the way folks have been since 2000.

    remember Schumpeter wasn't talking about markets , nor fiat based inflation he factored all of this out , his basis for cycles was the underlying economy.

    Note Schumpeter dates the start of the global recession as 1912, which has interesting parrells to the commodity bull that peaked in 1920..........this gives us another echo of 2000-2008 to reflect on, did the start of the recession actually start in 2000 and did we see a similar echo with the commodity blow off from 2000-2008?

    this is further confirmed with the fall in income in Europe here we have French incomes falling off a cliff

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    The crash is the symptom of the underlying economic cancer, the cancer has existed from 1998-2000 as it had done since 1912, but folks only started coughing up blood in 2007 and had the cancer diagnosed in 2008, unfortunately for some countries is terminal in others its bed rest.

    When I say terminal I mean in the sense of this generation, by the time some countries recover it will be another another generation.

    Economic jigsaws are never a perfect fit but I reckon my fit is one of the best explanation running around today :)
 
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