RK75, you may have the explanation for the rise in FAS price today, with no cash an d little hope of raising it, the only way to get some cash is to P&D GWR, that is what is happening at present and then there's kate Moss, she thinks Michael Wilson's sale is a feint to keep the GWR price down, or maybe to bring on some sellers so that the GWR P&D has some substance, too tricky for me these two shares