well Botch, this is Hot Copper - you will always see holders...

well Botch, this is Hot Copper - you will always see holders defending their patch and they generally think they need to discredit anybody with a point of view that reduces the share price -- I like to look at the situation from a TA perspective - but I also like to read HC to see what is going on with announcements, etc. I have found that if the general market is in a downdraft things can go ugly very quickly, irrespective of underlying fundamentals. If you have the capacity to go short you will make money in the current market, but watch out for reversals, because a very good announcement could cause the SP to jump and make a serious dent in your finances.