...this debacle sounds much like the credit crisis in general - nobody knows the extent of this mess .... especially if i involves peoples funds that have nothing to do with opes shortings .... .... i own shares - would be dismayed if i found my shares were being used to force my share prices down and then i need to sell my shares to pay my living expenses - which i have been doing .... .... ... i would need to consider revenge ...and i dont mean a tall building or a nice bridge .... at least not going alone ....