I can tell where your ideas have come from, Bill Molison. Just remember to take into account where Molison had his farms and did his research. First in far northern NSW, on volcanic soil around the edge of the extinct volcano of Mount Warning. Now he is in north west tasmania. Now you couldn't get two more fertile and magnificent areas to set up these small permacultrue plots. Mount Warning would have probably 1.5 metres or more of rainfall, and magnificent deep volcanic soil. North west coastal Tasmania, nearly a metre of rain, cooling summer winds and warming winter winds from the ocean and plenty of that red ferrosol soil that you could grow babies in.
Molison knew exactly where he wanted to do all this stuff. He picked out 2 tiny little pieces of paradise. You wouldn't be able to replicate what he did on 99% of the rest of Australia.
Have you tried to replicate what Molison does? How'd you go?
You've admitted that permaculture cannot feed 7 billion? Good on you. Now we can talk a bit more sensibly.
In my area it certainly is only organic farmers who plough up the ground. They are real organic farms, trying to make a profit, and exporting nutrients off their land, not someone with a tiny little vege garden calling it permaculture.
You mentioned harvesting and slow releasing rain? This is exactly what real zero-till farmers do today. The soil is never ploughed up, and the stubble is left on top, and the soil fills with water over the fallow period. Then this water is available for the crop when planted. Remember, most of Australia is not like where Molison had his vege gardens. Most farming areas of Australia get a quarter or a third of the rain as Mt Warning or north west Tassie, and the soils were not volcanic. You need to store water in the fallow, and you won't do that by ploughing it 6 times.
Tetlom said. "Permaculture can not replace modern agriculture. But before 5 billion people starve from lack of access to Fossil fuels they will remember to plant fruit trees, make dry compost toilets and do things that promote lizards, frogs and birds to come to their "gardens".
Are, ...mm....No. Before 5 billion starve to death there would be death, disease, rape, war, and genocide. Total breakdown of society, not some orderly change to permaculture vege gardens. Most people live in cities mate, and in developing countries they are starting to move to cities.
You organic guys are dreamers just full of theories.
