I put him on a par with Abbott who was a crazy. Equal to Bob Hawke never. We have had some good ones but they had crap teams under them, and the biggest problem of late is the factions on both sides which is why Independents have gaining more votes. Caucus meetings are killing the LIbs and Lab. and they haven't figured it out. Both sides have sidled up to the Chinese. and I think to our disadvantage.
