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MrBlueSky - I know I shouldn't engage but I am weak with a little too much free time atm. I like your example although I am not religious and was also thinking of 'doubting Thomas'.

I have been posting on OBJ for over 5 years and an optimistic supporter who has pretty much been an open book regarding disclosure from the beginning; so it is a little disappointing when someone new comes along and basically calls you a liar. Lucky I don't give a crap and have thick skin. After today I am going to take a break from Hotcopper for a while as I really don't think some people are that appreciative to those that try to help. I really don't know how abdm is able to keep his cool in the midst of so many daggers being thrown. I take my hat off to abdm and I have learnt alot but still have so much more to learn in respect of dealing with blind ignorance. I'll come back after the next Material Announcement when we can all focus back on what is extraordinary about OBJ.