Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
PEN is very tradable, but not out of the woods by a long way imo.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
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so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
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Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
Looks good for next week. Be prepared!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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A study last year found that without a “concerted” international effort, the level of plastics seeping into the environment each year could double by 2040.
In 2022, UN Member States committed to developing a Global Plastics Treaty aimed at reducing global plastics production, prioritising materials that pose the greatest risk to the environment and public health, and requiring nations to enhance waste management practices.
Despite years of discussions, time constraints and unresolved issues prevented negotiators from finalising a draft treaty text last year that could accommodate differing national positions.
However, Carsten Wachholz, co-lead of the Ellen MacArthur Foundation’s Business Coalition for a Global Plastics Treaty, tells edie that some progress was made, and businesses are now in a prime position to drive action towards securing a treaty in 2025.
Why were the talks unsuccessful?
One of the main challenges in Busan was the limited time available to process a new negotiating text.
“There was a last-minute attempt,” Wachholz explains, referring to the ‘non-paper’ approach introduced by the Chair of the Intergovernmental Negotiating Committee (INC) for the Plastics Treaty just two months before the final negotiation round.
“That required revisiting and a better understanding among countries regarding what the Chair intended with this text,” he adds.
Wachholz highlights that although this document was widely accepted as the basis for negotiations, key unresolved issues—such as defining sustainable levels of plastic production, phasing out problematic plastics, and securing financial resources—slowed progress.
The political pressure to meet the original two-year timeline was immense, Wachholz points out. But the complexity of the negotiations made it impossible to finalise a meaningful treaty in such a short time, especially after delays at previous meetings.
He says: “From an institutional or procedural point of view, there are no comparable timelines that have been met. For any other major multilateral environmental agreement, it has always taken more time.”
He emphasises that while delays can be frustrating, rushing to conclude an ambiguous and non-enforceable agreement would have been counterproductive. A date for the next round of negotiations, which will be known as INC 5.2, is yet to be confirmed.
What was achieved?
Wachholz highlights that significant progress was made. “We’ve reached a stage where there is now a clear division between two groups of countries,” he explains.
One group wants the treaty’s targets to be more voluntary and for nations to draw up their own plans – in which they should have the right to focus on waste management more than reducing plastic production at source. The other pushes for a more ambitious agreement addressing the full life cycle of plastics. This divide, while challenging, has helped clarify the key issues that must be resolved in 2025.
Negotiators moved closer to establishing global targets for plastic production, restrictions on problematic plastic products, and sector-specific waste management measures.
Wachholz notes that discussions on circular economy principles and Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) have gained traction, signalling a shift towards greater accountability for companies in managing plastic waste.
Additionally, while some areas remain ambiguous, key provisions such as scaling up waste management infrastructure and setting clear expectations for product design have been widely accepted.
“Some elements are more mandatory, while others—like EPRs—are mentioned as supporting mechanisms,” Wachholz notes. This progress, though incomplete, offers a strong foundation for finalising a treaty in 2025.
What are the challenges ahead?
Looking forward, Wachholz warns that some countries may attempt to “cherry-pick the easiest elements—like waste management and product design—while neglecting the more difficult measures, such as plastic production limits and phase-outs.”
To prevent a diluted treaty, business engagement will be essential in maintaining pressure for a comprehensive, life-cycle approach.
There is also the challenge of securing financial resources for implementation. Wachholz highlights that mobilising both public and private funds will be necessary to ensure the treaty is not only legally binding but also practical for implementation at the national level.
Developing nations, in particular, will require financial and technical support to scale up waste management systems and transition towards circular plastic economies.
Another concern is the potential for regulatory fragmentation. Without clear and enforceable global standards, some countries may implement only selected aspects of the treaty, leading to inconsistencies across regions. Wachholz emphasises that a coordinated global approach will be far more effective than a patchwork of national policies that may lack cohesion and enforcement.
How can businesses lead the change?
The business sector has already shown leadership in supporting a strong treaty.
“Since the beginning, we have convened the Business Coalition for a Global Plastics Treaty, and we continue to receive requests from companies wanting to join,” Wachholz explains.
Nearly 300 companies and organisations from across the plastics value chain are now involved in the Foundation’s Business Coalition for a Global Plastics Treaty, advocating for decisive action at INC 5.2.
Wachholz underscores the importance of businesses reinforcing key treaty provisions, particularly around product design regulations and EPR.
“Many companies have already voluntarily aligned on key principles for circular plastic design, particularly in packaging. Strengthening and standardising these measures would reduce costs associated with collecting, sorting and processing plastic waste,” he says.
Moreover, Wachholz argues that while some governments hesitate to mandate EPR, corporates can help to give policymakers permission.
Wachholz points out that companies should work closely with regulators to ensure that new policies are effective, practical and scalable.
Businesses can also play a crucial role in helping governments implement treaty provisions by offering expertise and technological solutions.
“A strong treaty will empower the private sector to ramp up and run solutions on their own, rather than relying solely on scarce public funds,” he says.
Looking ahead to INC 5.2, Wachholz warns that the process cannot be endlessly prolonged.
He says: “We shouldn’t reach the seventh session of the United Nations Environment Assembly (UNEA-7) in December 2025 only to hear that another two or three years are needed. Ideally, 2025 should be the year they seal the deal.”
To achieve this, Wachholz recommends that companies must continue to push for ambitious, enforceable measures while helping governments shape effective regulatory frameworks. By aligning industry efforts with treaty provisions, businesses can demonstrate that a strong agreement is not only necessary but also economically viable.
Source: https://www.edie.net/how-businesses-can-drive-action-towards-a-global-plastics-treaty-this-year/
P.S sorry to interrupt, while Pact responded with some bull crap information, this news from plastic treaty woke me up. While all evidences on ASX news pointed to the trading movements and other company's information. Environmental news me pointed me to exactly the opposite, as like Pact is benefitting that RG too much, man, like puppyeh said!! What about us?
While that Pact ASX news is the responding to ASX, I questioned myself after what Pact intention for putting heave capex on the report? My news huh? Why you don't tell us environmental truth for god sake? You made at least 3-4 holders exited before hand. Will you respond to it for your butt's job? Let me guess, Pact thinking was like, mumbo jumbo bananas, who is the loser and RG must be the winner? I was like HUH? Excuse ME!!!!! This is still the public company btw and Pact respond to the authority after I read this news was like, hey you are FAVOURING the CHAIR too much btw. It's only the chair and we can all sit on it, you know????
For me, I only focus this Plastic Treaty and top 200 holders on Pact shares, so little Pact respond to ASX, that I care!!!
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