WFL (ASX) Performance

Originally posted by abdm ↑

Hi billyrabbit,

Respectfully, every poster can expect a certain level of hostility in response to sharing a 'negative' sentiment on any company forum on HC. I have been on the receiving end of this type of 'hostility' on many occasions myself following the contribution of facts based on in-depth research, however to be fair, I don't agree that any of the points which you have raised (below) are based on truth or facts, nor have they been substantiated...

In regards to your views on HFT's, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this topic. Personally, I have long believed they are nothing more than a scam, and I solemnly believe the ASX are very well aware of this, but while making good coin from it they have no intention to stop supporting these type of schemes. They continue spruiking it with nonsense statements such as, 'it adds liquidity' however these HFT firms don't hold any positions for more than a second, nor do they hold any positions over night, so how can they be of any real benefit to anyone within the investment community, let alone your own assumption that these shady operations are providing a benefit to the wider Australian community? Don't let these unethical operators try to convince you that there's no difference between 'volume' and 'liquidity'

I have no idea how your former employer(s) may have brainwashed you, however when a company receives information before public and trade, and then decides to act on that information before it has been made available to the public, that by very definition is called 'insider trading'

It's pretty simple!

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Hi Abdm,

I see how every post that reflects a negative view of the stock can be spring boarded to the top of HC so this is probably my last post addressed to you.

I am not going to argue with you about HFT because your assumption that HFT firms don't hold overnight is extremely bogus. After the first 6 months at HFT firms, you have a pretty large margin to play off and each trader gets to make their own decision on what they choose to do. For once your knowledge about HFT is extremely superficial.

Regarding OBJ, this entire forum is swayed by your posts and hostility spawns if anyone goes against you.

Are you suggesting all the following information is wrong

- The truth is PG have C+D agreements with close to 45K Companies in the world

- OBJ has nothing more than a supply agreement

- Carefully crafted words have taken the retail punters for spin. Enabling the folks at helm to re spin the stock for more value.

- I held OBJ and believed there was value but now I am out. One must only speak to one of the other so called partners of PG Connect+ develop umbrella to understand how this works.

- Whether SK2 makes a billion dollar the question remains how much OBJ will get? Am I to believe Baker Young's prediction who sold out their top holdings?

- But I wonder why 4 major banks including their subsidiaries decided to pull out from OBJ in 2011, 2012 and 2013.

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If that be the case then I think I would require some clarification on BY selling out ?

I wonder if you have rebuttal for the following information ?

- Directors sold out after the PG announcement. Please dont cite undervalued pay because here it is a question of corporate ethics and SH value before directors pockets.

- The broker pumping this stock sold out as soon as P&G deal signed ? 600% profit argument really ? If they think good things are coming why sell ?

- The average small parcel holder increased while large parcel holders remained the same ?

- On the back of below the average salary , performance incentives in millions are signed ?

- No insto or bank is even willing to put 1% ?

- Top 20 holders comprise of a surprisingly large number of holdings in WA leederville where OBJ is located ?

- Sister company PNO whose director also sits on the board has not a single buyer on exchange ?

- 3-4 posters here posts only on OBJ pulling in market sensitive information.

Let me guess. You did not go to the AGM. Yet you will have all the information about the AGM. You will also have the information about which director said what ? Let me also guess no one has ever met you before. Let me guess you will have extensive information about PG working models. Hence you failed to highlight the negatives like PG pays net 75, PG has supplier agreements, PG does launch in a segmented market as highlighted by posters before and more than 65% of the company's innovation comes from outside and so on.

So there is nothing phenomenal about this PG agreement such that even PG is not willing for it to be disclosed. The truth is PG works even with start ups and you are inflating the worldview of how PG is at the mercy of OBJ.

Let's look at some Aussie Bio's with Insto interest

AHZ
CAJ
EBO
IPD
MYX
NAN
SUD
ADO
NEU

Heck even POH has insto's on board after their Ogru incident.

Either way, whatever you post this will be my last post addressed to you. It seems that you will again use this opportunity to springboard to the top.

Good luck with you company.