From Nicks mannerisms, that's not how I took it. My view...

From Nicks mannerisms, that's not how I took it.

My view from those comments are:

He's fully committed to Phoenix, knows the value, created the value via high risk moves, is committed for the next few years, but at some point will want to exit.

Upon exit, he'll then ( next ventures ) be more relaxed in his investing approach.