Do you not think the reason this was not achieved is because Turbott et al siphoned most of the money out of the company as exorbitant salaries? Look at the annual reports. Turbott is drawing ~$300k pa. I'm not looking for an argument here but it annoys the hell out of me that our shareholders are not banding together and holding our management to task for their complete and utter failings for over 30years. The amount of money that has passed through APG over the years to get this thing up and running and being able to ship samples to every steel mill around the world has been tremendous. Here were are in 2018, 18 months into Stage 1 and just deciding to revert back to our EVAP unit from 10years ago. They keep telling us parties are interested in our process. But we don't have anything to show them. We need top quality samples. Nothing less.