The man, could you expand a little we have seen positive cash...

The man, could you expand a little we have seen positive cash flow for this qtr. of about 3 million. Regarding debt how much do they have? Also, what do you mean by "they have to pay out their equity holders"

And finally are you saying that regardless of what events are held there Telstra must pay SAX some sort of fess for the advertising rights?

Thanks.