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07/03/18

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Originally posted by whereu ↑

Consider the claims that
God new all the outcomes of his creation at least from the moment of creation and even before that.
The names of all who were to be saved were entered in some sort of "book"

This is what I refer to as predestination, and is the result of an omnipotent creator.

Now, consider the claims that
We have free will in that we have the choices available to us that that we can influence our salvation through example the exercise of faith.

This is what I refer to as "free will".

The logical dilemmas

If God new the outcome from the beginning then free will that could result in changes to the original known outcomes known by God makes no sense.

If God new everything in advance then changes are not real because the so called changes are foreknown and hence not brought about by choice but are a product of the creation of an omnipotent God.

The concepts of free will and of a creator who new the outcome of everything at the beginning are incompatible ones.

If we have free will and can change our destiny through the exercise of free will then God could not have known the outcome of everything from the beginning and hence is not omnipotent.

If he is not omnipotent, then he is not God.

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How do you know that changes made by our free will, will not result in the final outcome God predestined for humanity.
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