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re: 2h bugger There are a lot of people assuming that was the announcement. For reasons stated above it is clear to me that we haven't yet received the announcement we have been expecting. Any long term tragics out there who have waited (more or less) patiently for these developments to resolve are well advised to hang on a few days at least until the real statement of position is posted.

We at least need to know who has the license for Intevia (Platinum just announced they would be working with TZL) and whether TZ has officially bought a part of the Platinum TFS pie, how much and who else is part of the consortium. Platinum is not a sole owner, more a facilitator.

Nothing has gone pear shaped and to my reading we are looking better than ever with a new source of essential expertise on tap.

Would hate to see old timers lose out at the final hurdle. But for those who depart and miss the boat (at least the first leg) you may be assured I won't say 'I told you so'!