putin speech on minorities in russia, page-217

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    Hang on DDXZ, you are trying to pick one of your points and turn the argument on me.

    Apart from the pornography argument, you blamed Hollywood and its portrayal of women. You also blamed Murdoch papers for having women in Bikinis. And you blamed the Jews. Please elaborate!!!!!!!!

    You have conveniently chosen pornography because it is the extreme of your argument. Also, since your post is moderated, I can't drag up exactly what you said. And it hasn't gone unnoticed that you have chosen to water down what you actually said.

    And for the record, I am proud to live in a society where women are treated with the respect they deserve. And they have the freedom to do what they choose. You obviously have a disdain for western women who choose to wear bikinis and who have the same freedom as us men.

    I know who you are and i know that deep down you have a dislike for who we are, what we stand for and how we live. But, you enjoy the luxuries we have to offer you and you family.

    And to answer your question, I do condone pornography. Just like I condone a person's freedom to drink alcohol, practice their religion in our country, live as a gay couple, show affection in public, to protest, to have freedom of speech, to have sex outside of marriage, to live with another person outside of marriage.

    You see, whether i like or dislike pornography is irrelevant. You are trying to discredit me by saying I stand for pornography and nothing else. I stand for what makes or has made this country so great. I am proud that i live in a society where a person has the freedom to go into a news agency and buy playboy/penthouse if they want. And if it disgusts you, you have the freedom not to buy it. To be honest, I have never thought about the rights or wrongs of pornography. AT the end of the day, if it involves consenting adults and is legal then i accept a person's right to do it.

    As i said, you clearly have a disdain for western women and western values.

    I am not going to try to guess where you come from or what your religion is. I don't care to be honest and as an Australian, your religion to me is irrelevant.

    As i said before, I am proud of living in a society where we have an equal respect for women. I have lived the better part of a decade in Asia and I know how much Asian women respect western men. The perception amongst Asian women is that western men are great husbands. Discounting the issue of money, they believe western men are GENERALLY (not always of course) very caring and very respectful of women. On the other hand they generally don't like middle eastern men because they believe they are disrespectful, rude and treat women badly.

    So while you sit on your high horse and judge our women and our values, there are not many who think highly of your values either.

 
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