Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
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Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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2nd half of transcipt...
"Don't dig here". It wasn't a solution at all, was it?
GRAEME RICHARDSON: No it wasn't an adequate solution. That's what I am saying. It's not an adequate solution. It is a solution that they saw as appropriate at that time. It's not adequate in today's terms. I must correct you that there are no emissions from that site. There was one emission from that site, which was some vapour coming through the plastic. That has been resealed and that has fixed that.
TARA BROWN: Is the carpark a classic symbol of how you guys dealt with your pollution problems — bury it and hope it goes away?
GRAEME RICHARDSON: I can't speak for ICI, who made those decisions back in 1980.
TARA BROWN: Orica says those sorts of allegations are from a different time, when a different company ran the site. It's a bit of a furphy really to say that Orica is a different company, isn't it?
GRAEME RICHARDSON: I don't believe so. The fact is that ICI owned and controlled an entity in Australia through until about 1998, at which time it sold its shares to the Australian public.
TARA BROWN: But seven out of your 10 current executives were with the company when it was called ICI Australia. You've effectively changed your name. You haven't changed anything else.
GRAEME RICHARDSON: Which executives?
TARA BROWN: Your current CEO has been with the company since 1989. Your general manager of consumer products has been with the company for 27 years. Your general manager, people and community, has been with the company for 27 years. Your group manager, strategy and acquisitions, has been with the company since 1992. Your general manager of chemical services has been with the company for 20 years.
GRAEME RICHARDSON: All those people...
TARA BROWN: Your CEO of Orica mining services has been with the company since 1985.
GRAEME RICHARDSON: The management of the company changed in about 2002 and the attitude of the company towards the contamination changed absolutely dramatically in the early 2000s. There was a total commitment by the board and management to clean up this site.
TARA BROWN: In Cheshire, England, they know all about ICI burying its problems. Here, in the village of Weston, they also have the neighbour from hell — another ICI plant. This one used to dump its toxic waste in a local quarry.
MIKE PRICE: They decided it would be a great place to dump their junk from the chemical works.
TARA BROWN: Mike Price had to live with the consequences.
MIKE PRICE: Eventually it was covered with earth and plenty of rubble, it started to seep and the muck came through to the surface.
TARA BROWN: And how toxic was that muck?
MIKE PRICE: That was toxic enough to burn the soles off your shoes.
TARA BROWN: Forty houses in the village, where dangerous levels of toxic gas were detected, had to be demolished. Horses now graze on the empty plots.
MIKE PRICE: People were seeing the house they had lived in for years there one day and nothing the next.
TARA BROWN: What was that like?
MIKE PRICE: There was a lot of anger, a lot of fear and there were actually people crying in the street when they were talking to friends about it.
TARA BROWN: Back here in Australia, the fear is for Botany Bay. Orica says the underground plume which is heading towards the bay at 100m a year is being contained. The signs say otherwise. When you're making acid, solvents, plastics and the like, you are, by nature, dealing with dangerous and volatile substances. And no-one knows more about those dangers than these people — former ICI workers and their relatives meeting here for the first time to share some disturbingly similar stories.
PHIL ATKINSON: We used to pull bodies out of the autoclave — blokes knocked out with the gas, just totally knocked out.
TARA BROWN: Phil Atkinson worked in the mixing tanks in the plastic section.
PHIL ATKINSON: What you'd do then is, you would drop a hose in, blow air into the vessel to get the gas out, go in and drag them out.
TARA BROWN: What would happen if you didn't get to these workers in time?
PHIL ATKINSON: They'd die.
TARA BROWN: How often would leaks occur?
MAN: All day. All day, every day, every shift.
PHIL ATKINSON: When you would scr ape the walls the gas would come out from behind the walls and get you. We were told it was all right. We were told you could eat the PVC, it wouldn't hurt you.
TERRY MUNRIGHT: It all came down to how cheaply can you make the product and that's all that mattered, the product. It didn't matter about the fellas.
TARA BROWN: Now remember the moon suits and that shed-full of hexachlorobenzene, HCBs? Terry Munright knows the area well. He used to fill those drums.
TERRY MUNRIGHT: It's bad stuff.
TARA BROWN: What would you wear while you were wearing the...
TERRY MUNRIGHT: Overalls.
TARA BROWN: Gloves, masks?
TERRY MUNRIGHT: Yeah, gloves. No masks. Nothing was insisted upon. If you looked at the engineers when they came out on to the plant, they were done up like the Michelin man. They had all this on. You would think, 'What are they wearing that for?'
TARA BROWN: You've poisoned the water. Have you also poisoned the workers?
GRAEME RICHARDSON: No. Not to my knowledge. There has been no issue arising as far as I am aware that has caused any harm to any former employee.
TARA BROWN: Jackie Douglas's father worked at ICI for 11 years. A year after leaving, he went to the doctor feeling unwell.
JACKIE DOUGLAS: And we were told he had leukaemia. That was it — three weeks later he was dead. He was 56.
TARA BROWN: Now, cancer can strike anyone in any industry but it appeared to these people that, at Botany, it struck too often to be a coincidence.
MAN: My father got a cancer in the pancreas that one person in a million would get. It was inoperable. And, yet, three other blokes that worked with dad, they all died of cancer, too. The priest out there, the priest at ICI, he died of cancer.
TARA BROWN: June Idon's husband, Jim, worked at the chlorine plant.
JUNE IDON: He was constantly sent home in distress, where he had had gas on his lungs and had no oxygen, couldn't breathe. And I used to say, "Leave there. You're going to die. It's going to kill you." But we needed the money. He came in Sunday morning, got into bed, I went in the kitchen, did a couple of things, went back, and he was dead. Just like that. No — just died.
TARA BROWN: Two decades after first learning it had poisoned the ground water, Orica has finally been ordered by the NSW Government to clean up the mess. This $167 million water treatment plant has started pumping the contaminated water out of the ground and purifying it.
MARIANN LLOYD-SMITH: I don't believe they can stop the contamination. It's moving at a very rapid rate. It is a huge plume. It covers at least a couple of square kilometres. I think it would be very, very optimistic to say that at this late stage they could stop that plume completely from arriving at the bay.
GRAEME RICHARDSON: Orica is committed to finding that solution. We have developed that solution. In the last 12 months, we have constructed an amazingly complex ground water treatment plant.
TARA BROWN: Can you sit here today and give us 100 percent guarantee that the most toxic part of that plume won't reach Botany Bay?
GRAEME RICHARDSON: No-one can give 100 percent guarantee, but what I can assure you is that Orica is doing everything possible to ensure that none of that concentrated contamination will reach Botany Bay.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
PEN is very tradable, but not out of the woods by a long way imo.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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